From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Barry Margolin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: C-f, C-b, C-n and C-p or right, left, down, up? Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:35:10 GMT Organization: Level(3) Communications, Woburn, MA Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <1c58a7c3.0310010003.78c0fa00@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065455241 30803 80.91.224.253 (6 Oct 2003 15:47:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:47:21 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 06 17:47:16 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A6XZr-0004KD-00 for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 17:47:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6XYU-0005ko-Mv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 11:45:50 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!4.24.21.153!chcgil2-snh1.gtei.net!news.bbnplanet.com!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news.level3.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Mail-Copies-To: never X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test72 (19 April 1999) Originator: barmar@genuity.net (Barry Margolin) Original-Lines: 26 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.78.176.30 Original-X-Trace: news.level3.com 1065454510 171.78.176.30 (Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:35:10 GMT) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:35:10 GMT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:117094 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:13022 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:13022 In article , Sven Utcke wrote: >Well, considering where C-y is on an american keyboard (it's fine on a >German one, incidentially), makes one wonder if Emacs control >sequences where ever designed for anything but mnemonic value --- Most >of them certainly are in strange places. Almost all the key bindings that have been around since the early days (late 70's) were chosen solely for mnemonic value. I don't think ergonomics was given much consideration at all (I don't recall hearing about Carpal Tunnel Syndrome or RSI until several years later). >I for one use the arrow keys where available, even after using Emacs >for 10 years, and while rarely using the mouse... One thing I find that I think helps quite a bit is heavy use of C-u. When I want to go up or down by a bunch of lines, I type C-u C-p/C-n or C-u C-u C-p/C-n rather than typing C-p/C-n many times. C-u C-p C-u C-p ... is pretty comfortable to type; my left pinky sits on the Control key, and I just rock back and forth between my right index and ring fingers. -- Barry Margolin, barry.margolin@level3.com Level(3), Woburn, MA *** DON'T SEND TECHNICAL QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO ME, post them to newsgroups. Please DON'T copy followups to me -- I'll assume it wasn't posted to the group.