From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: EScott@nyiso.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: moderators for GNU lists (Re: no offense, but what's up with the German political ranting & raving?) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:42:19 -0400 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1087832585 32346 80.91.224.253 (21 Jun 2004 15:43:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, help-gnu-emacs-bounces+escott=nyiso.com@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 21 17:42:50 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BcQwb-0002hp-00 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 17:42:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BcQxr-0007Td-8Z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:44:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BcQxi-0007TL-Fr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:43:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BcQxh-0007T9-TZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:43:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BcQxh-0007T6-Rb; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:43:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [204.152.47.133] (helo=dommail2.nyiso.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BcQwB-0008DR-9V; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:42:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: Original-To: Joe Corneli X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.1 January 21, 2004 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DomMail2/NYISO(Release 6.51HF99 | March 17, 2004) at 06/21/2004 11:42:22 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:19015 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:19015 Joe Corneli wrote on 06/21/2004 11:33:38 AM: > I don't see enough bogus messages to justify a large effort. > > I think they were really bad about a couple of months ago. The > German stuff is unlikely to get caught by any kind of spam filter. > I think it demonstrates that _if_ the lists are going to be > moderated, they are going to have to be hand-moderated. > I agree that hand-moderating is the way to go. > To me it isn't the quantity of spam that _I_ see that's the big > concern, its the free multi-plexing, whereby each spammer who posts > to this list gets their message delivered to 100's of people around > the world. Take your distraction and multiply it by a big number, > that's the actual cost of spam on this list. I agree that giving the bad guys a free ride is not good. I had not considered the multiplier effect, either. You could probably talk me into changing my mind on that basis. > > Some of the other GNU lists (e.g. gnu-emacs-sources) are far less > readable, because of a much greater prevalence of spam. > > >