From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Placement of list within an interactive clause Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2022 00:08:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: References: Reply-To: carlmarcos@tutanota.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32739"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Christopher Dimech , Help Gnu Emacs To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 17 00:09:26 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oCpyX-0008J1-UG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2022 00:09:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40622 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oCpyW-0003Zx-Vs for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2022 18:09:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54686) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oCpxZ-0003Zo-N4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2022 18:08:25 -0400 Original-Received: from w1.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.162]:49036) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oCpxX-0007ZR-RS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2022 18:08:25 -0400 Original-Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C298FBF572; Sat, 16 Jul 2022 22:08:20 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1658009300; s=s1; d=tutanota.com; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=luFI7av+Jtbg05pfBaTQyCd15wv87Hlzh4XmHDkbnec=; b=NiCgG22besk43I6DlxmTHUfDMOcsH8dywrBq1+mo1A7F4lKhBhqmp3zj6SsWJPWh 2/msiUcbkd4Daee7jVSSzk7rDcjw8entL+vGPpQ/T32ptsyK7xiiiqtgTjxADu6jGKv S5v8OqUBBwRCP23ldYPPnyqETluBPsONLookqDKq/08hrByLhrO/fIig7Zc22McikhR mdRa86J40N1ZjHsHkSDhjkPokxKnDmR/EHIs45TfY3hV363i6mdnKCawund6I0BXx89 2e189+IaUE9lGUcLgoBuHk39DC28NVx/A6NEFIIV7GHFDCzxE0mytlQ8gI0JAv6d173 3V8LNWhvgQ== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.162; envelope-from=carlmarcos@tutanota.com; helo=w1.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:138504 Archived-At: Jul 15, 2022, 21:31 by bugs@gnu.support: > * carlmarcos@tutanota.com [2022-07-16 00:23]: > >> Yes, I realise that.=C2=A0 I see that (interactive) is misleading.=C2=A0 >> Although "read-from-minibuffer" cannot be called from M-x, it still >> asks for input through the minibuffer.=C2=A0 Notwithstanding =C2=A0 that >> normal programming language code does not customarily lead to user >> input during run-time, particularly when automation is pursued. >> > > Emacs Lisp is what it is. Text editor IS interactive as by the context > of English language. Declaration "(interactive)" is not misleading as > it has pretty good description what it is. If you however, do not > understand any word in that description, let us know. > > It is misleading when you do not use it, but having the body run minibuffer= commands in the body.=C2=A0 If you want to make a function without ever interacting = with the user (with=20 either M-x or whatever), then calling any minibuffer functionality in the b= ody is contrary to what you want to do.=C2=A0 That's all I am saying.