From: carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [External] : Tab completion and electric-indent-mode
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2022 06:20:43 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <N4p1elN--3-2@tutanota.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mtebi3vk.fsf@dataswamp.org>
Jun 17, 2022, 17:41 by incal@dataswamp.org:
> Drew Adams wrote:
>
>>> `electric-indent-mode` says that in does "On-the-fly
>>> Reindentation". What does that mean, and how is it
>>> different to normal indentation?
>>>
>>
>> What's "normal indentation"?
>>
>
> I was thinking the same! Capable programmers think the
> same ...
>
There seems to be some basic initial indentation (call it normal). This could be followed be
a subsequent reindent.
> Isn't there a PhD thesis in CS on this where they have
> subdivided it into categories with pros and cons?
>
> In this thread we have encountered
>
> 0. languages that demand indentation to be a certain way (e.g. Python)
>
> 0. situations where TABs are mandatory (e.g. a Makefile for
> GNU make), i.e. SPC doesn't work
>
> 0. indentation that is done "on the fly" (I agree with whoever
> just said it isn't clear what that's supposed to mean?)
>
Right. Confusing what it is doing.
> Note 0:
> Indenting the code your way, which often is just one or two
> cases, the rest is the same as everyone else does it - this
> can be a way to "get into" a bunch of code you originally
> didn't write, rather it was handed over to you, be it from
> some intelligence agency, maybe Mossad or the FSB ...
>
Isn't working with the code your way a basic premise of free software?
When emacs is the flagship of the Gnu System, working with the code
your way should actually be supported.
> Note 0:
> "May I indent your code?", one should be careful saying to
> a fellow programmer, perhaps.
>
> Note 0:
> With some languages (e.g. Haskell) you often get stuck doing
> indentation manually for ages, and after changing some
> thing, it "has to" be adjusted for that, all of it; I don't
> know if that is because of Haskell's formal approach and
> style that resembles math, or Haskell's inherent
> neuroticism, or if it is some feature of the language, be it
> the support for and focus on pattern matching often and
> a lot, the function arguments not the least ...
>
> - HEY, why aren't the digits increasing?!
>
> Because ... these are technical details,
> implementation-specific solutions, as well as general hacker
> lore & legend, what I look for is rather styles of the
> indentation itself. Like "this indentation style is called
> 'leap-and-return' and what characterizes it is its focus on
> [etc etc]"
>
> - Ah, there you go. Thanks for the answer!
>
> np :)
>
> --
> underground experts united
> https://dataswamp.org/~incal
>
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Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-06-17 11:59 Tab completion and electric-indent-mode carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-17 14:10 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-17 14:14 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-17 15:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-18 3:45 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-18 6:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-18 8:05 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-18 8:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-18 15:35 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-18 16:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-18 9:15 ` Eric S Fraga
2022-06-19 2:26 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-22 10:46 ` Eric S Fraga
2022-06-18 23:10 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-18 23:19 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-17 17:41 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-18 4:20 ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [this message]
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