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From: arthur miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>,
	"M.R.P. zensky" <wintermute24x7@icloud.com>
Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Best Emacs Mail client.
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 08:29:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <HE1P194MB0106807CB04040845D6F720496440@HE1P194MB0106.EURP194.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191127075419.GD12856@protected.rcdrun.com>

I understand that guns have some rather steep learning curve, but so does Emacs. However both gmail and nowadays outlook/live/hotmail have switched pretty much to same model of displaying messages as webforum disscution/conversation. It feels as a quite solid proof of concept to me, so it might be worth investment to learn few new shortcuts and use built in guns.

I use it myself for gmail and live as imap client and works fine. Did required some hair pulling to initially configure until I got it, but it works quite fine, just like any other client, with bonus of no additional software needed.

I don't use 3rd party clients like notmuch or similar to download mail either, I just do with guns.

I understand it is exact contrary of what you ask for, so feel free to ignore my opinion, I just ment to give you a second thought about guns since it is already in Emacs and thus convenient to use.

Best regards
/a



Skickat från min Samsung Galaxy-smartphone.


-------- Originalmeddelande --------
Från: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Datum: 2019-11-27 08:54 (GMT+01:00)
Till: "M.R.P. zensky" <wintermute24x7@icloud.com>
Kopia: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Ämne: Re: Best Emacs Mail client.

* M.R.P. zensky <wintermute24x7@icloud.com> [2019-10-29 23:06]:
> Hello I wondering what the best mail client is for me to use. I do
> not want to use gnus. I just want a really good mail client that can
> handle pop and map. Can Rmail support POP and Imap? Should I look
> elsware?

Well... I also wonder about that.

For me, so far, the best way to handle large amounts of emails is
using emacs-libvterm module
https://github.com/jixiuf/emacs-libvterm and mutt email client under
the libvterm within emacs. http://www.mutt.org

I am using Maildirs, for which Emacs does not have support, see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maildir

In my setup every conversation is saved to the ~/Maildir folder
correspoding to the email, like ~/Maildir/user@example.com then I can
quickly open up previous conversation with the user.

Rmail reads from rmail/mbox file. Not from IMAP. POP you should not
even use, change your provider if you are offered POP. Use always
secure connections to IMAP.

movemail software can move from IMAP to local folder. movemail utility
you may find in GNU Mailutils, being better than the movemail bundled
with the Emacs, see http://www.mailutils.org/ it works like charm, and
it is GNU. It can do some serious magic in handling emails.

My fcrontab entry is:

@ 5 /home/data1/protected/bin/rcd/move-mail.lisp

which is outside script that runs movemail for few IMAP boxes, and
moves mail to local ~/Maildir but you could adapt it to move mail to
local mbox file. Then you could read it with Rmail, which is quite
good in handling emails, but not reliable for me, as I am accessing
emails sometimes with multiple instances of mutt or other tools.

There are other packages for email handling in Emacs, you could look
in list of packages, like Wonderlust and MH-E which is I think built
in package. MH-E is better than Rmail in my opinion, it has good
features and handling of emails, see info for: mh-e

Yet those I cannot use, as I am using Maildir format, for me, mutt is
great solution, and it is running within Emacs frame.

Jean



  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-27  8:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-29 22:05 Best Emacs Mail client M.R.P. zensky
2019-10-30  1:09 ` Skip Montanaro
2019-10-30 15:48   ` George Hartzell
2019-10-30  1:23 ` Doug Davis
2019-10-30  1:57   ` 황병희
2019-10-30  2:41   ` Jude DaShiell
2019-11-01  2:19   ` 황병희
2019-11-27  7:54 ` Jean Louis
2019-11-27  8:29   ` arthur miller [this message]
2019-11-27 15:50   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-27 18:24     ` Pankaj Jangid
2019-11-29 14:42       ` Eric S Fraga
2019-11-27  9:44 ` 황병희
2019-11-27 11:49   ` Jude DaShiell
     [not found]     ` <mailman.2844.1574855400.13325.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2019-11-27 16:46       ` Marcio T
2019-11-27 18:01         ` arthur miller
2019-11-28 12:01           ` Jude DaShiell
2019-11-28 12:36             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2019-11-28 13:22             ` Marcio Jose Teixeira
2019-11-27 20:30 ` Herbert J. Skuhra
2019-11-27 23:24   ` George Hartzell
2019-11-27 23:36   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2019-11-28  1:39     ` 황병희
2019-11-28  7:02     ` VanL
2019-11-28  7:25       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2019-11-28 10:19         ` VanL
2019-11-28 12:29           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2019-11-28 13:24             ` VanL
2019-11-28 14:03               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2019-11-29  5:55                 ` VanL
2019-11-29  6:01                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2019-11-29 10:33                     ` VanL
2019-11-29 12:58                       ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-30  7:54                         ` VanL
2019-11-30 16:00                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-30  0:26                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2019-11-30  8:10                         ` VanL
2019-12-07 20:23                       ` Tomas Nordin
2019-12-08  0:09                         ` VanL
2019-11-29  7:02                   ` Pankaj Jangid
2019-11-29 10:51                     ` VanL
2019-11-30  0:13                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2019-11-30  8:03                         ` VanL
2019-11-30 10:34                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2019-12-01  2:31                             ` VanL
2019-12-01  3:24                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2019-12-01  3:53                                 ` VanL
2019-12-01  4:43                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2019-12-01  9:55                                     ` VanL
2019-12-01 18:27                                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2019-12-02 21:00                                         ` VanL
2019-12-12 15:25                                         ` Ergus
2019-11-28  1:56   ` 황병희
2019-11-28  2:04     ` 황병희
2020-11-15  4:05 ` 황병희
2020-11-15  7:21   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-15 14:45     ` Teemu Likonen
2020-11-15 15:38       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-15 15:24     ` Amin Bandali
2020-11-15 15:55       ` Jean Louis

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