From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Vollmar Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Umlauts on Mac in 24 pretest Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 21:05:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1003AB64-797E-4CE6-8467-7668944DE0D9@univie.ac.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-718-1035744176; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1337972730 25189 80.91.229.3 (25 May 2012 19:05:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 19:05:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs To: Neuwirth Erich Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 25 21:05:29 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SXzpG-0007Px-Ef for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 May 2012 21:05:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33551 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SXzpG-0007E7-2n for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 May 2012 15:05:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59186) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SXzp9-0007Dj-La for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 May 2012 15:05:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SXzp7-0001YE-Kd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 May 2012 15:05:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.nf.mpg.de ([134.107.209.50]:53382) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SXzp7-0001Xz-B9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 May 2012 15:05:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mac25.fritz.box (p5dc9ff8b.dip.t-dialin.net [93.201.255.139]) by mail.nf.mpg.de (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.03 (built Apr 24 2009; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0M4L0085XECPPU00@mail.nf.mpg.de> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 May 2012 21:05:14 +0200 (MEST) In-reply-to: <1003AB64-797E-4CE6-8467-7668944DE0D9@univie.ac.at> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-Received-From: 134.107.209.50 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:84976 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail-718-1035744176 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dear Erich, if I am not mistaken, one point has not yet been mentioned: you are = working on a Mac and there are some arguments for using the same kind of = keyboard shortcuts that work consistently for all Mac applications (with = a German keyboard, and not only Umlaute). AFAIK, this is not trivial to = implement if one wants to have a "peaceful co-existence" with certain = Emacs functionality. However, David Reitter has spent a considerable = amount of effort to get this just right: it works "out-of-the-box" with = Aquamacs. I am currently using one of the nightly development builds = (Emacs 94.0.92.3) and can only recommend it. Warm regards,=20 Stefan On 23.05.2012, at 17:59, Neuwirth Erich wrote: > I am using Emacs pretest 24.0.97 on a Mac with Lion 10.7.4. > Some of my documents are in German, so I need to enter umlauts and = sharp s. > I have not your found an easy solution without giving up to many other = keyboard macros. > I still would like to use Cmd-X_C_V for Cut-Copy-Paste. > And I still would like to use Alt as the meta key. >=20 > Is there a good solution complying with my wish list? --=20 Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys. Head of IT group Max-Planck-Institut f=FCr neurologische Forschung Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 K=F6ln, Germany Tel.: +49-221-4726-213 FAX +49-221-4726-298 Tel.: +49-221-478-5713 Mobile: 0160-93874279 Email: vollmar@nf.mpg.de http://www.nf.mpg.de --Apple-Mail-718-1035744176 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIOHTCCBCEw ggMJoAMCAQICAgDHMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMHExCzAJBgNVBAYTAkRFMRwwGgYDVQQKExNEZXV0 c2NoZSBUZWxla29tIEFHMR8wHQYDVQQLExZULVRlbGVTZWMgVHJ1c3QgQ2VudGVyMSMwIQYDVQQD ExpEZXV0c2NoZSBUZWxla29tIFJvb3QgQ0EgMjAeFw0wNjEyMTkxMDI5MDBaFw0xOTA2MzAyMzU5 MDBaMFoxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkRFMRMwEQYDVQQKEwpERk4tVmVyZWluMRAwDgYDVQQLEwdERk4tUEtJ MSQwIgYDVQQDExtERk4tVmVyZWluIFBDQSBHbG9iYWwgLSBHMDEwggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUA A4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDpm8NnhfkNrvWNVMOWUDU9YuluTO2U1wBblSJ01CDrNI/W7MAxBAuZgeKm 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