From: Chiron <chiron613.no.spam.@no.spam.please.gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs: Problems of the Scratch Buffer
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 16:47:32 GMT [thread overview]
Message-ID: <EwBkr.4536$zA4.4001@newsfe19.iad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.390.1335022565.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:35:58 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Chiron <chiron613.no.spam.@no.spam.please.gmail.com> Date: Sat,
>> 21 Apr 2012 14:59:34 GMT
>>
>> I am arguing for the right of the current maintainers to make or to not
>> make whatever changes they feel are appropriate; and I am saying that
>> if the maintainers don't choose to make certain changes, that does not
>> necessarily make them fossils, behind the times, stupid, or whatever.
>> It may simply be that they don't think those changes are important.
>
> A purely theoretical argument that is not relevant to the reality (in
> which the maintainers _do_ make changes requested by users, albeit not
> automatically and not without discussing them first).
Eli, I was responding to someone who was complaining that these
maintainers weren't making certain changes that the person felt would be
good. Whoever this person was (he's in this thread, but I'm not going to
go digging for it) said something mildly derogatory about the
maintainers, as though their failure to make these changes was in some
way a defect. I argued that the maintainers had the right to not make
the changes, and that doesn't make them deficient in any way.
It is only a "purely theoretical" argument if taken out of context.
Oh, yes. Someone also was criticizing me for saying, in effect, "If you
don't like emacs, don't use emacs." His solution was to try to get
someone to change emacs to make it more attractive to new users, because
if you had lots of new users this would lead to an improved product.
By that logic, Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Word would be the best
software out there. I'm not sure everyone would agree with such a claim,
though.
--
Duty, n:
What one expects from others.
-- Oscar Wilde
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-04-21 16:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-04-18 12:00 Emacs: Problems of the Scratch Buffer Xah Lee
2012-04-18 12:31 ` Joe Corneli
2012-04-18 16:57 ` Steinar Bang
2012-04-18 17:33 ` Ludwig, Mark
2012-04-18 18:15 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-04-18 18:16 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-04-19 21:08 ` Steinar Bang
[not found] ` <mailman.169.1334770417.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-18 21:11 ` Chiron
2012-04-18 23:56 ` Ludwig, Mark
2012-04-19 10:34 ` Tassilo Horn
2012-04-18 17:01 ` Mark Skilbeck
2012-04-18 19:33 ` Aaron Meurer
2012-04-18 20:22 ` Deniz Dogan
2012-04-19 5:55 ` Kevin Rodgers
2012-04-19 5:58 ` Kevin Rodgers
2012-04-19 20:47 ` Bug Dout
2012-04-19 21:11 ` Chiron
2012-04-19 22:41 ` Ludwig, Mark
[not found] ` <mailman.260.1334875302.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-20 3:27 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-04-20 3:53 ` Aaron Meurer
2012-04-20 11:08 ` Fritz Wuehler
2012-04-20 11:48 ` Richard Riley
[not found] ` <mailman.304.1334922534.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 3:53 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 8:16 ` Joost Kremers
2012-04-21 12:43 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 12:47 ` Jambunathan K
2012-04-21 14:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.373.1335012467.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 14:42 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 14:49 ` Joe Corneli
[not found] ` <mailman.381.1335019797.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 15:04 ` Chiron
[not found] ` <mailman.379.1335017454.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 14:46 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-21 16:15 ` Dan Espen
2012-04-21 16:58 ` Chiron
[not found] ` <mailman.389.1335022448.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 16:32 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 16:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.396.1335027140.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 17:09 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 17:36 ` Dan Espen
2012-04-21 23:01 ` Bastien
2012-04-23 11:52 ` Joost Kremers
2012-04-24 7:40 ` rusi
2012-04-24 11:35 ` Richard Riley
2012-04-24 13:44 ` ken
2012-04-25 10:39 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-04-25 12:41 ` ken
2012-04-25 21:51 ` Jambunathan K
[not found] ` <mailman.42.1335390728.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-26 17:25 ` rusi
2012-04-26 17:48 ` Bastien
[not found] ` <mailman.619.1335350542.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-26 19:08 ` Xah Lee
2012-04-24 14:33 ` Dan Espen
2012-04-24 18:40 ` PJ Weisberg
2012-04-21 8:36 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-04-21 9:48 ` Joe Corneli
[not found] ` <mailman.362.1334997514.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 12:35 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 13:31 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-04-21 15:01 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 14:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.378.1335017298.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 14:52 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-04-21 15:15 ` Jambunathan K
2012-04-21 16:03 ` Jambunathan K
2012-04-21 14:59 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 15:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.390.1335022565.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 16:47 ` Chiron [this message]
2012-04-21 17:07 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
[not found] ` <mailman.398.1335028190.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 17:14 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 17:47 ` Juanma Barranquero
[not found] ` <mailman.401.1335030473.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 18:03 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 21:34 ` Jason Earl
2012-04-21 14:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-21 15:03 ` Chiron
2012-04-20 11:31 ` Martin
2012-04-21 3:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-21 3:25 ` Dan Espen
2012-04-21 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-21 16:08 ` Dan Espen
2012-04-21 16:50 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 17:30 ` Dan Espen
2012-04-21 22:13 ` Ludwig, Mark
2012-04-22 10:00 ` Petter Gustad
2012-04-22 10:27 ` Richard Riley
2012-06-12 19:25 ` Nikolai Alekseev
2012-06-12 19:24 ` Nikolai Alekseev
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