From: uzibalqa <uzibalqa@proton.me>
To: Thibaut Verron <thibaut.verron@gmail.com>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Running emacs without any customisation
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 12:41:37 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <EPfZsEdqhb89OZyKc9CSYLEaxur-BugWAVPPAZJsc2YwV047y-M0bZD4tKRMp6trWLQ89jgGVZOrL-iGTFr3FX7ceCkUXzXiJUEQhyGKHJc=@proton.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b4b27985-d2f9-5540-36bf-34ec032b75e8@gmail.com>
------- Original Message -------
On Monday, October 10th, 2022 at 12:10 PM, Thibaut Verron <thibaut.verron@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/10/2022 13:54, uzibalqa wrote:
>
> > ------- Original Message -------
> > On Monday, October 10th, 2022 at 11:46 AM, Thibaut Verron thibaut.verron@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > So I see two things here.
> > >
> > > First, even with an empty .emacs, just running emacs might not the
> > > equivalent of "emacs -Q", as it will still load the system-wide
> > > configuration files (the "site-elisp").
> > >
> > > Second, running emacs with an empty .emacs should not result in a black
> > > background. The cause is almost certainly in the xepty.el file where all
> > > the functions and variables used here are (I hope) defined.
> > > (xepty 'nogo) should not even load "xepty.el". Hom can one figure out
> > > what "site-elisp" could be doing?
>
>
> Oh, right, sorry, I missed the unless.
>
> On my system (ubuntu) there are configuration files in /usr/share/emacs,
> /usr/share/emacsen-common and /etc/emacs. I don't know if they are all run.
>
> Regardless, the site lisp should not cause emacs to fail to start or
> start with a black screen. To test it, you can run emacs without your
> config but with most site-lisp with emacs -q.
>
> I assume that you don't get the black screen with -Q? And that you don't
> have any other configuration files in your .emacs.d (for example
> early-init.el) ?
With "emacs -Q" I get the expected white screen. I do not have an "early-init.el"
in my ".emacs.d". But I do have something installed:
. places
.. session.10b21b0bf7ddc78cb816648280224499300000018700060
abbrev_defs session.10b21b0bf7ddc78cb8166502604539066600000018700137
auto-save-list session.10b21b0bf7ddc78cb8166502678640923500000018700138
elpa session.10b21b0bf7ddc78cb8166505172554019500000018700140
ls elpa
archives company-20211024.2305 gnupg xr-1.23 xr-1.23.signed
> > > On 10/10/2022 13:36, uzibalqa wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have the following in my .emacs file. Calling (xepty 'nogo) should
> > > > not execute anything. But when I run emacs, I get a black background.
> > > >
> > > > I thought I would get the equivalent of "emacs -Q".
> > > >
> > > > (defun xepty (&optional statck)
> > > > "Launch xepty tools for Emacs."
> > > >
> > > > (unless (equal statck 'nogo)
> > > > (add-to-list 'load-path "${HOME}/xepty/")
> > > > (load "xepty")
> > > > (xepty-tools)))
> > > >
> > > > (xepty 'nogo)
> > > >
> > > > (custom-set-variables
> > > > '(savehist-additional-variables '(xepty-frame-pos))
> > > > '(xepty-frame-pos '(34 . 34)))
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-10 12:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-10 11:36 Running emacs without any customisation uzibalqa
2022-10-10 11:46 ` Thibaut Verron
2022-10-10 11:54 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-10 12:10 ` Thibaut Verron
2022-10-10 12:41 ` uzibalqa [this message]
2022-10-10 23:40 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-11 15:00 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-10 23:30 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-11 15:02 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-11 15:13 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-11 15:56 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-11 15:59 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-11 16:19 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-11 15:57 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-11 16:17 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-11 17:24 ` Drew Adams
2022-10-11 22:48 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-12 1:33 ` Drew Adams
2022-10-11 18:52 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-11 19:10 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-11 19:13 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-11 19:43 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-11 20:26 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-11 20:45 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-11 20:53 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-11 21:23 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-11 22:01 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-11 22:28 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-11 22:31 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-11 22:47 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-11 23:00 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-11 17:45 ` RE: [External] : " Christopher Dimech
2022-10-12 0:12 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-12 1:44 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-12 9:59 ` Dr Rainer Woitok
2022-10-12 12:47 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-12 14:45 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-12 15:30 ` Drew Adams
2022-10-12 15:56 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-12 17:03 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-12 17:50 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-12 18:25 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-12 18:54 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-12 19:06 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-12 20:42 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-12 20:51 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-12 21:05 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-12 21:35 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-12 21:45 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-12 22:11 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-12 22:25 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-13 0:33 ` Dale Snell
2022-10-13 0:46 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-14 5:10 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-14 18:28 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-13 0:40 ` Po Lu
2022-10-13 0:43 ` Po Lu
2022-10-13 1:09 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-13 2:02 ` Po Lu
2022-10-13 11:17 ` Dr Rainer Woitok
2022-10-13 13:18 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-13 14:56 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-14 0:37 ` Po Lu
2022-10-14 0:47 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-14 3:21 ` Po Lu
2022-10-13 15:03 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-13 16:47 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-13 17:55 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-14 4:18 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-13 0:42 ` Po Lu
2022-10-13 0:50 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-13 1:07 ` Po Lu
2022-10-13 1:11 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-13 2:01 ` Po Lu
2022-10-13 2:05 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-13 4:03 ` Po Lu
2022-10-13 6:19 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-13 12:17 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-13 12:39 ` Po Lu
2022-10-13 13:10 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-13 13:20 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-14 4:09 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-14 5:11 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-13 13:21 ` Po Lu
2022-10-13 14:02 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-13 15:59 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-14 16:30 ` Drew Adams
2022-10-13 14:03 ` Pascal Quesseveur
2022-10-13 14:18 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-13 15:04 ` Pascal Quesseveur
2022-10-13 15:26 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-13 16:41 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-14 0:38 ` Po Lu
2022-10-14 2:02 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-14 3:19 ` Po Lu
2022-10-14 3:49 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-14 4:45 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-14 4:52 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-14 6:16 ` Po Lu
2022-10-14 6:31 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-14 16:01 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-14 18:43 ` tomas
2022-10-15 6:58 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-15 8:39 ` tomas
2022-10-15 17:38 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-15 19:37 ` tomas
2022-10-14 20:55 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-14 2:33 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-14 4:14 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-14 5:32 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-14 8:47 ` Dr Rainer Woitok
2022-10-14 9:57 ` Po Lu
2022-10-14 12:30 ` uzibalqa
2022-10-14 13:48 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-16 4:57 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-14 20:50 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-13 1:12 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-13 0:40 ` Po Lu
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