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From: tristero <tristero@waste.net>
Subject: Re: Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken?
Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 02:03:17 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <EJEta.749193$F1.96383@sccrnsc04> (raw)
In-Reply-To: lQBta.26$J33.1166@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net

In article <lQBta.26$J33.1166@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net>, Barry Margolin wrote:
> Macs (except some of the very earliest Apple keyboards) have three modifier
> keys: Control, Option, and Command.  I would expect Control to be used for
> Control, Option to be used for Meta, and Command to be reserved for
> implementing standard Macintosh shortcuts.  

The carbon emacs port can use either Option or Command as meta;
whichever one isn't Meta becomes Alt.  It's configured by the variable
mac-command-key-is-meta.  At one point the default value of this
variable was t.  I set it to nil explicitly in ~/.emacs so that the
behavior matches emacs in an osx Terminal and also in X11 (with a
sensible .xmodmap): in my environment all three use Option for meta (I
never use Alt in emacs).

As for the carbon port not matching Aqua conventions, it's hard to
know what to say. The carbon port is functionally outstanding; it
deserves nothing but praise imo.  The OP's contention that the lack of
predefined support for Cmd-q makes this "crippleware" or "broken" is
truly an amazing feat of pettiness, even for usenet.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-06  2:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-05  6:00 Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken? BK
2003-05-05 10:44 ` Piet van Oostrum
2003-05-05 20:03   ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-06  2:39     ` BK
2003-05-05 22:16   ` BK
2003-05-06 13:49     ` Piet van Oostrum
2003-05-07 15:09       ` BK
2003-05-05 10:45 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-05-05 21:52   ` BK
2003-05-05 22:50     ` Niels Freimann
2003-05-06 11:05     ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-07 18:02     ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-05-07 23:16       ` Emacs on Aqua (non-religious please) BK
2003-05-07 23:20         ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-08 12:07         ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-05-08 13:24           ` tristero
2003-05-08 14:40             ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-05-05 22:39   ` Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken? Henrik Enberg
2003-05-05 22:45     ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-06  2:03       ` tristero [this message]
2003-05-07 14:51         ` BK
2003-05-07 15:17           ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-07 23:48             ` BK
2003-05-08  2:16               ` David Eppstein
2003-05-08 19:39               ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-06  8:33 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-06 13:58   ` BK
2003-05-06 14:45     ` Jerry Kindall
2003-05-06 15:16       ` David Kastrup
2003-05-06 15:41       ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-07  2:11         ` Jerry Kindall
2003-05-07 16:15       ` BK
2003-05-07 16:40         ` Phil Stripling
2003-05-07 17:34         ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-06 15:27     ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-06 16:07       ` Oliver Scholz
     [not found]       ` <m2issoavgw.fsf@owlbear.local>
2003-05-06 18:01         ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-06 18:28           ` Andrew Choi
2003-05-06 18:57         ` Ajanta
2003-05-06 18:41           ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-06 19:12           ` Phil Stripling
2003-05-07 12:05             ` BK
2003-05-07 12:23               ` David Kastrup
2003-05-07 17:38                 ` BK
2003-05-07 20:04                   ` Gilbert Harman
2003-05-07 11:35           ` BK
2003-05-07 12:09             ` David Kastrup
2003-05-07 21:16               ` Ajanta
2003-05-07 13:41             ` Alan Mackenzie
2003-05-07 19:28               ` BK
2003-05-07 21:39                 ` Ajanta
2003-05-08  1:05                   ` BK
2003-05-08  2:28                     ` Ajanta
2003-05-07 18:54             ` Suggestion to BK Ajanta
2003-05-07 11:01       ` Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken? BK
2003-05-07 11:18         ` Phillip Lord
2003-05-07 11:33         ` John Paul Wallington
2003-05-07 19:48           ` BK
2003-05-10 20:00             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-07 11:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-07 13:27         ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-07 20:04           ` BK
2003-05-08  7:18             ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-08 19:42               ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-08 21:55                 ` Björn Lindström
     [not found]         ` <mailman.5689.1052308519.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-07 19:49           ` BK
     [not found] <mailman.5694.1052313577.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-07 14:00 ` David Kastrup
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-07 14:10 niels freimann
     [not found] <mailman.5712.1052338208.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-08  1:47 ` BK
2003-05-08  7:50   ` Rainer Joswig

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