From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Ctrl-[ ? Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2019 23:22:47 +0900 Message-ID: References: <874l51q0s4.fsf@telefonica.net> <83ef45rdij.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhmto6fa.fsf@telefonica.net> <20190607163017.GA32029@tuxteam.de> <96B116FC-8007-4C42-9AE6-585530D0C76E@comcast.net> <87muisor2h.fsf@telefonica.net> <20190608084404.GB28228@tuxteam.de> <87h890ns41.fsf@telefonica.net> <83pnnonr15.fsf@gnu.org> <20190608140320.GB4323@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="81224"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 08 16:23:20 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hZcFb-000Kzp-CJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 16:23:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58746 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hZcFZ-0002dw-VX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 10:23:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39175) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hZcFL-0002dT-QP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 10:23:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hZcFK-0006yH-Ha for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 10:23:03 -0400 Original-Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:39943) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hZcFK-0006xN-6m for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 10:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pl32040.ag0304.nttpc.ne.jp [111.89.228.40]) (Authenticated sender: jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org) by relay10.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 862E9240003 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 14:22:55 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <20190608140320.GB4323@tuxteam.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 217.70.178.230 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120841 Archived-At: > On Jun 8, 2019, at 23:03, wrote: >=20 > On Sat, Jun 08, 2019 at 10:54:17PM +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary = wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Jun 8, 2019, at 22:30, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>>=20 >>> We have an enormously complex piece of software on >>> our hands, and we have no better choice than going the = "inconvenient" >>> ways when we want to rebind an unusual key. >>=20 >> In all honesty: >>=20 >> (define-key input-decode-map "\C-[" [C-left-bracket]) >> (define-key global-map [C-left-bracket] 'myfunction) >>=20 >> is not inconvenient at all. What is inconvenient is the discovery = process. >=20 > Then documentation is the way forward, perhaps? I think so. >> Knowing what I know about emacs (which is above the casual user) and = even with the willingness to go through the manual, it would have been = (it *has* been) impossible for me to find that solution. >>=20 >> Now, what I'd love to know is what are the other "unusual" keys, = because as a group, they deserve a few more lines in the manual. >=20 > A good set of candidates would be all those control characters > (the first 31 in man ascii(7)) which are customarily bound > to a key (like CTRL-C, aka ETX, CTRL-\, aka FS, and so on). >=20 > Care to compile a list? Sure. I'll try them and see if I can rebind them "normally" or if I have = to use the above method. Jean-Christophe Helary ----------------------------------------------- http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune