From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jay Cotton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: I wish list-buffers used my current window when it listed my buffers Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:12:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <0F190770-005F-4DEA-BE5F-4E235FC6BAD9@gmail.com> <00FA1084-C039-4E70-A3D1-BDF18EEB5D17@gmail.com> <87wqnlpxo9.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1376691199 28798 80.91.229.3 (16 Aug 2013 22:13:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 22:13:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 17 00:13:21 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VASGm-0007uJ-DB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 00:13:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33315 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VASGl-0001yS-OR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:13:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35420) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VASGT-0001T5-1i for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:13:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VASGK-0003XW-JL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:13:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qc0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22a]:32884) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VASGK-0003VK-EX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:12:52 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qc0-f170.google.com with SMTP id i8so1404798qcq.15 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 15:12:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=zsNmhpJps/e+Oqp5hBA6VUC1EJ6fkAxePH/7s0Fh5FA=; b=e5QkJPZisF8D1d6OFNDsWgXFvdAI6zscmgxZxW+pTrxipvneuXivBvCvajfhXMPrsX hchfi4gGDfS8pl5bZdvSaEBYLBXW32XINQi9svGIaKhDGfm8fao4yfhQEn5Qqedrz+Tq uSw9Q/NV5ggsnkBoHYnkgiUyV7EArW1enj8qEx4pI/mx0G1R63yO643FTmdir+yJaeIH H56fS2MASIAMwGZFA0sDMJPdzlm+msS3YTKdQlMcO4XYR8NnhcC46qYCVXlVIF5fzEfx g7mGTi16OHk4dfrud9LI+Zn2aDJQBwa4cpjNCULi4Dg9XhFP74b73AsMK7ryKvluPizn fnlw== X-Received: by 10.224.127.137 with SMTP id g9mr6058433qas.4.1376691171164; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 15:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.69] (108-249-80-59.lightspeed.chtnsc.sbcglobal.net. [108.249.80.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e5sm31090qae.9.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 16 Aug 2013 15:12:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87wqnlpxo9.fsf@web.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22a X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92939 Archived-At: On Aug 16, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Michael Heerdegen = wrote: > Jay Cotton writes: >=20 >> Is it just you and me, or do lots of others also think this behavior >> makes better sense? (=46rom a windowing perspective, that is. I can't >> speak to the technical pros and cons of electric-buffer-list vs. the >> traditional list-buffers, I just like that the former opens in the >> same window.) >>=20 >> I list buffers *constantly* when I'm working in emacs. I've always = got >> 3 or 4 windows open, and I'm somewhat OCD about keeping things where = I >> want them, and the problem is that with such an arrangement, I can't >> always predict where list-buffers is going to pop up the buffer >> list. I haven't studied the problem carefully, and I assume it has >> something to do with the order in which I created the windows. But I >> don't always create the windows in the same order. Usually my >> arrangement just sort of evolves as I'm working, and in any event I >> can't always predict which window will be used to pop up the buffer. >>=20 >> This difficult-to-predict window behavior has always seemed = un-emacs-y >> to me. And I've always wondered if I'm somehow "doing it wrong" since >> it causes me such grief when my .emacs file isn't available. >=20 > Configuring `display-buffer-alist is a good solution in the most = cases. > For the other cases, you at least have winner.el to undo buffer = popping > you didn't want (`winner-undo'). >=20 > BTW, AFAIK Stefan plans to implement prefix keys that control the = buffer > displaying behavior of the following command. There would be a = default > behavior, and you can use those prefixes to deviate from the default. >=20 > Michael. I didn't know about winner.el. Thanks, that sounds very useful. Also, the window behavior prefix command sounds like a neat idea. It = seems like it would have to be either: a) different for different commands, in order to maintain existing = differences in prefix args (ie., C-u C-x 'some-command might already = mean something) or=20 b) obscure enough that it would risk being tedious to use right? A difficult task indeed, I hope I can help somehow. Thanks again, Jay