From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: florian@fsavigny.de (Florian v. Savigny) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Basic legal question: Publication of a fix to psgml Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:56:06 -0400 Message-ID: References: <51584E07.8060709@easy-emacs.de> <87r4ivobbb.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <515857CD.8080504@easy-emacs.de> <831uav4kr9.fsf@gnu.org> <51586AF5.1070309@easy-emacs.de> <83y5d32y8y.fsf@gnu.org> <5158934B.4040100@easy-emacs.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364766979 1154 80.91.229.3 (31 Mar 2013 21:56:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:56:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Andreas Röhler Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 31 23:56:46 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMQF2-0005VV-Gl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:56:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46786 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMQEd-0007wl-Lk for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:56:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55590) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMQER-0007vn-0T for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:56:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMQEO-0006dm-R3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:56:06 -0400 Original-Received: from srv4.ns-domain-hosting.de ([178.63.89.203]:38810) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMQEO-0006de-LW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:56:04 -0400 X-No-Relay: not in my network X-No-Relay: not in my network Original-Received: from bertrandrussell.Speedport_W_723V_1_27_000 (p4FECCB33.dip.t-dialin.net [79.236.203.51]) by srv4.ns-domain-hosting.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8694515DC004; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:56:03 +0200 (CEST) In-reply-to: <5158934B.4040100@easy-emacs.de> (message from Andreas Röhler on Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:49:31 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 178.63.89.203 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:89852 Archived-At: Thanks to everybody for the clear answers! Andreas, although I know I might be risking to lengthen this needlessly, I would like to confirm what the others said: I did merely ask whether I can publish it, and I am completely happy with the answer. Although, as may be guessed, I do understand, and even share, your motive - keeping great software that was written for everybody available to everybody -, I do not see how the ELPA copyright policy hinders that in any way. Lots of elisp packages are not on ELPA, but that does not preclude distributing and using them, or making them known. The fact that psgml has not been available in a usable form for some time now even though a fix has been in place for some time is simply due to my not asking about how to publish it, not to the ELPA copyright requirements. I don't think anything will keep me from announcing this fix publicly enough. FWIW, my gut feeling is that the Emacs people have a good reason for their requirements. Emacs has always been a very conservative piece of software, and to me, this is indeed part of what makes it so exciting. There might be a downside to this, but there always is, isn't there? (Actually, I think the fundamental, well, problem with psgml is actually that it does not seem to have a maintainer anymore. If it had, the question would not have occurred at all, I presume.) Best regards, Florian