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> From: Deniz Dogan <deniz.a.m.dogan@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:11:23 +0100
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> 
> Thanks, I was finally able to figure it out.  The section "For
> the impatient" could do with some improvement though, e.g. by
> mentioning early on where the user can install cp.exe and other
> coreutils.

The trick with that section is not to put everything there ;-)
There are no redundant information in nt/INSTALL, so theoretically any
bit could be a stumbling block.

Somehow, people who don't have a working development environment don't
qualify for the right to be in the "impatient" category in my book...

But I will add a sentence about the need to have these, thanks for
mentioning it.