From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joe Corneli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: making contents of other programs transparent to Emacs Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 12:50:47 -0500 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1093715493 1434 80.91.224.253 (28 Aug 2004 17:51:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 28 19:51:28 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C17MO-0002p2-00 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:51:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C17R7-0002tp-IC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:56:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C17Qj-0002lo-1y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:55:57 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C17Qh-0002kx-Ew for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:55:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C17Qh-0002kh-Aq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:55:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [146.6.139.124] (helo=dell3.ma.utexas.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C17Ln-00004x-CD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:50:51 -0400 Original-Received: from linux183.ma.utexas.edu (mail@linux183.ma.utexas.edu [146.6.139.172]) by dell3.ma.utexas.edu (8.11.0.Beta3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id i7SHonF31619; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 12:50:49 -0500 Original-Received: from jcorneli by linux183.ma.utexas.edu with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1C17Lj-0005xu-00; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 12:50:47 -0500 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-all-your-base-are-belong-to-us: You are on the way to destruction. X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:20352 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:20352 Well, for terminal programs (not X11), the program screen is cool. Yes, I use it a lot, though I haven't spent much time trying to configure the commands to match my preferences, but I think it can be easily done. For now, I've reverted to using the mouse to cut and paste between programs. I wonder if it would be possible to hack screen make it so that each virtual terminal window was also a virtual Emacs buffer; this would be a concrete step in the direction of making other programs transparent to Emacs. I have no progress so far on an Emacs-controlled X11. But here is a little background: part of the inspiration for thinking about this stuff was a hope that the Ratpoison window manager (which is like screen in many ways) could be more like screen in terms of text selection. It is possible to send commands to Ratpoison from within Emacs, but if you shift your focus away from Emacs, its game over for that. (One could write a pretty simple patch to resolve that problem I think, but this is a far cry from having every keyboard command filtered through an Emacs process or having the contents of the other programs available to that process.)