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I got it working fine, thanks for your help. 

I think it is a little weird that you have to set the defaults in
two places.  

I also noticed the following: on the one hand, we have this:

M-: (equal (scroll-bar-mode . (())) (scroll-bar-mode nil))
t

But on the other hand, putting (scroll-bar-mode nil) into the
default-frame-alist causes the flickering appearance of a scroll
bar.  Is this a bug? How is Emacs detecting the fact that
(scroll-bar-mode nil) is not dotted?