From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Knoppix is not entirely free software Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:37:45 -0500 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <17659.1068784236@mixed> <6629.1068841296@mixed> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1068915198 32490 80.91.224.253 (15 Nov 2003 16:53:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 15 17:53:09 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AL3fY-00043Q-01 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:53:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AL4YE-0004mY-W7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:49:38 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AL4Xv-0004mJ-RQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:49:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AL4XP-0004fo-2A for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:49:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AL4VP-0004SX-9v for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:46:43 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.24) id 1AL3Qf-0007k7-Gf; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:37:45 -0500 Original-To: Peter S Galbraith In-reply-to: <6629.1068841296@mixed> (message from Peter S Galbraith on Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:21:36 -0500) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:14268 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:14268 So perhaps we were premature in removing support for g...... in MH-E then. It was only one of many supported indexers. That wasn't premature--I asked you to remove that code. Unlike Netscape and Windows, G...... is a fairly obscure non-free program, so just telling people it exists and what it does tends to promote it. Moreover, desupporting it in Emacs could well encourage people to switch to a free program that Emacs does support. I wouldn't expect us to have much leverage convincing people to stop using Windows or even Netscape by desupporting it in Emacs; even Netscape probably has more users than Emacs does, and we would tend to reduce usership of Emacs rather than that of Netscape. Meanwhile, mentioning the option of using Netscape won't very often inform people that Netscape exists, because they already know that.