From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Unknown Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: what is the point of point-min? Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 06:58:09 -0400 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <3F4E2B31.5070904@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1062329388 30084 80.91.224.253 (31 Aug 2003 11:29:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 31 13:29:46 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19tQOw-0001JJ-00 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:29:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 19tQMQ-0007i8-Fa for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:27:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 19tQ1c-00009V-7r for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:05:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 19tQ07-000855-BW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:04:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 19tPyI-0007gs-8m for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:02:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.20) id 19tPuL-0006gW-QV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 06:58:09 -0400 Original-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Stainless Steel Rat on Sun, 31 Aug 2003 01:52:47 -0400) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:12215 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:12215 > From: Stainless Steel Rat > Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help > Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 01:52:47 -0400 > > There are many such little not quite identicalities between FSF GNU Emacs > and XEmacs. One of my personal favories (ugh) is how they both handle the > no-conversion coding system. FSF and X do different things, neither of > which are in fact no conversion (at least, that was the case last time I > did anything along those lines). IIRC, with GNU Emacs 21.x, no-conversion does no conversions at all if you read the text into a unibyte buffer. (That's the only case where it's possible to avoid any conversions without grave consequences such as byte-combining dread.) I don't know if that is what you want.