From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: New Emacs with GTK! Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:06:16 +0100 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200303231300.30622.nfreimann@firemail.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1048439272 22268 80.91.224.249 (23 Mar 2003 17:07:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 17:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 23 18:07:48 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18x8wm-0005mh-00 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:07:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18x8vq-0003lQ-00 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 12:06:50 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18x8va-0003ak-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 12:06:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18x8vY-0003YK-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 12:06:33 -0500 Original-Received: from lava.bostream.com ([213.79.144.10] helo=mail.bostream.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18x8vN-0002vp-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 12:06:21 -0500 Original-Received: from lgh163a.kemisten.nu (lgh163a.kemisten.nu [212.32.172.173]) by mail.bostream.com (8.12.4/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h2NH6I7j190155; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:06:18 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from ams by lgh163a.kemisten.nu with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18x8vI-0008E1-00; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:06:16 +0100 Original-To: nfreimann@firemail.de In-reply-to: <200303231300.30622.nfreimann@firemail.de> (message from Niels Freimann on Sun, 23 Mar 2003 13:00:30 +0100) Original-cc: oconnor@soe.ucsd.edu X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:7827 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:7827 Its a good choice for a world where most of us running gnome or kde, and ncurses, motif, etc. already has become the past. I know that this are harsh words - however they are true. Sorry, those word are not true at all. This mail is being typed over an SSH session in Emacs, how do you expect me to write this if I can't use Emacs in the console? What about people that use brail devices? I for example prefer _NOT_ using GNOME or KDE since the computers I use aren't the fastest around. And even on the fast computers that I use, I still prefer not using GNOME or KDE, since I find them quite honestly useless (this is my own opinion, others actually dop like GNOME and KDE, and find them usefull). What you suggest is just absurd, people should have the choice of running their favourite widget without having someone telling them "this is the future, so we will stop supporting you". As long as the code doesn't rot into oblivion, I really don't see a problem.