setting site-wide default colors,fonts,... in Emacs

setting site-wide default colors,fonts,... in Emacs

[Frank C. Weiler]

Help,

I have gone through the documentaiton several times,
and am not able to locate WHERE the site wide default
color scheme and default fonts are established for
any user.  I know that one can setup color schemes
in Xdefaults:Emacs... but I would like to establish
the defaults for ALL users.  Does this have to be set
at compile time? or is there a site-wide initiializaiton
file that will establish the default colors and fonts?

If you can point me where to go to find this information,
in a specific manner, I would be greatfully thankfull.

Please help me.

Frank C. Weiler
850 Quetta Avenue
Sunnyvale, CA 94087

E-Mail:  fcweiler@sbcglobal.net
E-Mail:  frank.weiler@lmco.com

Re: setting site-wide default colors,fonts,... in Emacs

[Richard Stallman]

    I have gone through the documentaiton several times,
    and am not able to locate WHERE the site wide default
    color scheme and default fonts are established for
    any user.  I know that one can setup color schemes
    in Xdefaults:Emacs... but I would like to establish
    the defaults for ALL users.

I am not sure.  When you find out, please tell me, and I will
document it in the Emacs manual.

Re: setting site-wide default colors,fonts,... in Emacs

[Gerd Moellmann]

"Frank C. Weiler" <fcweiler@sbcglobal.net> writes:

> If you can point me where to go to find this information,
> in a specific manner, I would be greatfully thankfull.

For Xt, you may want to look at the Xt FAQ (look for app-defaults).

For bare X, I think you'll have to modify some shell script starting a
user session or X.  Man xdm, if you are using xdm.

Don't know for KDE or Gnome.

Re: setting site-wide default colors,fonts,... in Emacs

[those who know me have no need of my name]

in gnu.emacs.help i read:
>"Frank C. Weiler" <fcweiler@sbcglobal.net> writes:

>> If you can point me where to go to find this information,
>> in a specific manner, I would be greatfully thankfull.
>
>For Xt, you may want to look at the Xt FAQ (look for app-defaults).
>
>For bare X, I think you'll have to modify some shell script starting a
>user session or X.  Man xdm, if you are using xdm.
>
>Don't know for KDE or Gnome.

perhaps richard was too subtle.  there is no `one place' where these things
are set.  some window managers ignore the xrdb in favor of something of
their own, others just pay no attention to anything but their compiled
settings or when you are lucky command line arguments.  and every
application has the same choices.  it's a wilderness, and it's getting
worse.

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Re: setting site-wide default colors,fonts,... in Emacs

[Kai Großjohann]

"Frank C. Weiler" <fcweiler@sbcglobal.net> writes:

> I have gone through the documentaiton several times, and am not able
> to locate WHERE the site wide default color scheme and default fonts
> are established for any user.

All X applications use a similar mechanism.  In particular, the
environment variables XUSERFILESEARCHPATH and XFILESEARCHPATH are
evaled.

You could also use strace (or trace or truss or ktrace, depending on
OS) on an invocation of Emacs.  Look for stat or open calls on files
named Emacs (with capital E).
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Re: setting site-wide default colors,fonts,... in Emacs

[Ehud Karni]

On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 12:33:53 +0100, kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) wrote:
> 
> "Frank C. Weiler" <fcweiler@sbcglobal.net> writes:
> 
> > I have gone through the documentaiton several times, and am not able
> > to locate WHERE the site wide default color scheme and default fonts
> > are established for any user.

If you settle for changing the defaults by lisp (like I do) you can do
it by creating a `default.el' or `site-start.el' in your site-lisp 
directory, and putting your elisp commands there. Check your       
`load-path' variable for the exact directory on your system (usually
it is the 1st directory in `load-path').

See the node "The Init File, `~/.emacs'" in the Emacs info for more
information.

Ehud.


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Re: setting site-wide default colors,fonts,... in Emacs

[Hallvard B Furuseth]

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kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann) writes:
>Frank C. Weiler <fcweiler@sbcglobal.net> writes:
>> I have gone through the documentaiton several times, and am not able
>> to locate WHERE the site wide default color scheme and default fonts
>> are established for any user.
> 
> You could also use strace (or trace or truss or ktrace, depending on
> OS) on an invocation of Emacs.  Look for stat or open calls on files
> named Emacs (with capital E).

...in the lib/X11/app-defaults directory.  On my site, it would be
  /local/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Emacs
which could contain lines like
  *foreground: blue

-- 
Hallvard

Re: setting site-wide default colors,fonts,... in Emacs

[Hans Larsen]

Hello,

>For Xt, you may want to look at the Xt FAQ (look for app-defaults) 
SuSE 8.1: /usr/X11R6/lib.X11/app-defaults/Emacs

SuSE 8.1:  don't forget to either prevent .emacs from reading
 /etc/skel/.gnu-emacs or changing /etc/skel/.gnu-emacs

>Don't know for KDE or Gnome 
In case of KDE changing /usr/X11R6/lib.X11/app-defaults/Emacs
is sufficient.

Cheers
-Hans