From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: goncholden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Indentation with spaces Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 03:12:06 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87fskezg7s.fsf@dataswamp.org> Reply-To: goncholden Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22440"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 09 05:13:38 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nz8c6-0005fr-5l for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 05:13:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60246 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nz8c5-0001gF-2I for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Jun 2022 23:13:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45858) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nz8al-0001Fg-71 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jun 2022 23:12:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-4324.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.24]:18705) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nz8ai-0004ER-6x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jun 2022 23:12:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1654744329; x=1655003529; bh=ndn/j3yzpuloR6tH2vcUzblwH8ZAqWx2A7tYZoBhcIs=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To: Feedback-ID:Message-ID; b=hRGjVRIyEMxEDoB67vOd69ZKlshOeFSR4TTpBLYU+dZa3hlSjfZz/g5AtgaEYGxJj R0UA8AZ2OJIYXAdeLly9a7d7VoiNyYaxG1cnZ1FeIhDdgM30Tkn58iGht/TFkvkeMr 4vmIQoRWS+t8zbmZX3PwXaEuoKGSZtKPFvvlaP0b9+RWMe+ZQf6mDUyDlV56xlxe4/ G53kF3IuUQ9LThSDyMGdP8ehZGelRlj17pn5l9MQEEqMOOZI0fPpi72Sd3nzgj8dJC s8DgQqPkAZrCOb2KyjomfgDbUALoQAtvK9L095rqYsPBhDTzGgcywhfjj/jZleQumv bzYDpJmyDLt9g== In-Reply-To: <87fskezg7s.fsf@dataswamp.org> Feedback-ID: 43053548:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.24; envelope-from=goncholden@protonmail.com; helo=mail-4324.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137540 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Thursday, June 9th, 2022 at 3:08 PM, Emanuel Berg = wrote: > Skip Montanaro wrote: > > > As for TAB not inserting a literal TAB character, > > indentation is controlled by the major mode. I believe that > > for ELisp, the default indentation is just two spaces. > > (Don't quote me on that though.) > > > Why is `indent-tabs-mode' t by default? Tabs should not > be used. I agree and found it very annoying. Could one request a change? > Anyway here is how I do it: > > ;;; -- lexical-binding: t -- > ;; > ;; this file: > ;; https://dataswamp.org/~incal/emacs-init/tabs.el > > (defun untab-all () > (unless (member major-mode '(makefile-gmake-mode > makefile-mode) ) ; exceptions > (untabify (point-min) (point-max))) > nil) ; "did not write buffer to disk" > > (setq-default tab-width 3) > > (setq-default indent-tabs-mode nil) > > (provide 'tabs) > > And then > > ;; (setq before-save-hook nil) > (defun before-save-hook-f () > (untab-all) > (delete-trailing-whitespace) ) > (add-hook 'before-save-hook #'before-save-hook-f) > > -- > underground experts united > https://dataswamp.org/~incal