* HELP: One Bindkey for Two Different Commands
@ 2007-11-21 1:41 Edward
2007-11-21 3:20 ` Drew Adams
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From: Edward @ 2007-11-21 1:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Why waste two bindkeys on two similar commands when you can simply
write a function to choose the between commands based on context?
Unfortunately, this very simple idea doesn't seem to work for me.
Here's what I have in my .emacs so far:
(defun ya-ya ()
(if (cdr (window-list))
'other-window
'switch-to-buffer))
(global-set-key "\M-o" (ya-ya))
Any ideas how this might be accomplished?
Edward
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* RE: HELP: One Bindkey for Two Different Commands
2007-11-21 1:41 HELP: One Bindkey for Two Different Commands Edward
@ 2007-11-21 3:20 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-21 13:03 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-11-30 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2007-11-21 3:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Edward, help-gnu-emacs
> Why waste two bindkeys on two similar commands when you can simply
> write a function to choose the between commands based on context?
>
> Unfortunately, this very simple idea doesn't seem to work for me.
> Here's what I have in my .emacs so far:
>
> (defun ya-ya ()
> (if (cdr (window-list))
> 'other-window
> 'switch-to-buffer))
>
> (global-set-key "\M-o" (ya-ya))
> Any ideas how this might be accomplished?
1. To turn a function into a command, add an `interactive' spec.
The functions other-window and switch-to-buffer require arguments.
The second argument to global-set-key is a command, not a list such as you
have supplied.
Read the Emacs Lisp manual a bit. Better yet, read the manual Emacs Lisp
Introduction.
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* Re: HELP: One Bindkey for Two Different Commands
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@ 2007-11-21 7:46 ` David Kastrup
2007-11-21 9:33 ` Drew Adams
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From: David Kastrup @ 2007-11-21 7:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
>> Why waste two bindkeys on two similar commands when you can simply
>> write a function to choose the between commands based on context?
>>
>> Unfortunately, this very simple idea doesn't seem to work for me.
>> Here's what I have in my .emacs so far:
>>
>> (defun ya-ya ()
>> (if (cdr (window-list))
>> 'other-window
>> 'switch-to-buffer))
>>
>> (global-set-key "\M-o" (ya-ya))
>> Any ideas how this might be accomplished?
>
> 1. To turn a function into a command, add an `interactive' spec.
>
> The functions other-window and switch-to-buffer require arguments.
Your point being? other-window and switch-to-buffer both have an
interactive spec.
> The second argument to global-set-key is a command, not a list such as
> you have supplied.
He does not supply a list. He supplies a command. The problem merely
is that he makes his choice of command at the time of global-set-key,
not at keypress time.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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* RE: HELP: One Bindkey for Two Different Commands
2007-11-21 7:46 ` David Kastrup
@ 2007-11-21 9:33 ` Drew Adams
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From: Drew Adams @ 2007-11-21 9:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> >> Why waste two bindkeys on two similar commands when you can simply
> >> write a function to choose the between commands based on context?
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, this very simple idea doesn't seem to work for me.
> >> Here's what I have in my .emacs so far:
> >>
> >> (defun ya-ya ()
> >> (if (cdr (window-list))
> >> 'other-window
> >> 'switch-to-buffer))
> >>
> >> (global-set-key "\M-o" (ya-ya))
> >> Any ideas how this might be accomplished?
> >
> > To turn a function into a command, add an `interactive' spec.
> >
> > The functions other-window and switch-to-buffer require arguments.
>
> Your point being? other-window and switch-to-buffer both have an
> interactive spec.
Just trying to help.
To be more clear: You need to call function `other-window' or
`switch-to-buffer', not just return the symbol. And calling them means
providing their required arguments - use either (call-interactively
'other-window) or (other-window <some-window-number>).
> > The second argument to global-set-key is a command, not a list such as
> > you have supplied.
>
> He does not supply a list. He supplies a command.
Sorry, I misread '(ya-ya) instead of (ya-ya).
> The problem merely is that he makes his choice of command at
> the time of global-set-key, not at keypress time.
To be more helpful: You need to pass the symbol `ya-ya', instead of calling
the function `ya-ya': (global-set-key "\M-o" 'ya-ya). A key is bound to a
command (or its symbol), not to the result of calling the command.
This is the opposite mistake from that made with `other-window' (returning
the symbol instead of calling the function). As David suggested, you called
`ya-ya' at key-binding time, so one of the symbols it returns at that time,
not `ya-ya', gets bound to `M-o'.
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* Re: HELP: One Bindkey for Two Different Commands
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@ 2007-11-21 12:46 ` Edward
2007-11-21 15:57 ` Mathias Dahl
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From: Edward @ 2007-11-21 12:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Nov 21, 2:33 am, "Drew Adams" <drew.ad...@oracle.com> wrote:
> > >> Why waste two bindkeys on two similar commands when you can simply
> > >> write a function to choose the between commands based on context?
>
> > >> Unfortunately, this very simple idea doesn't seem to work for me.
> > >> Here's what I have in my .emacs so far:
>
> > >> (defun ya-ya ()
> > >> (if (cdr (window-list))
> > >> 'other-window
> > >> 'switch-to-buffer))
>
> > >> (global-set-key "\M-o" (ya-ya))
> > >> Any ideas how this might be accomplished?
>
> > > To turn a function into a command, add an `interactive' spec.
>
> > > The functions other-window and switch-to-buffer require arguments.
>
> > Your point being? other-window and switch-to-buffer both have an
> > interactive spec.
>
> Just trying to help.
>
> To be more clear: You need to call function `other-window' or
> `switch-to-buffer', not just return the symbol. And calling them means
> providing their required arguments - use either (call-interactively
> 'other-window) or (other-window <some-window-number>).
>
> > > The second argument to global-set-key is a command, not a list such as
> > > you have supplied.
>
> > He does not supply a list. He supplies a command.
>
> Sorry, I misread '(ya-ya) instead of (ya-ya).
>
> > The problem merely is that he makes his choice of command at
> > the time of global-set-key, not at keypress time.
>
> To be more helpful: You need to pass the symbol `ya-ya', instead of calling
> the function `ya-ya': (global-set-key "\M-o" 'ya-ya). A key is bound to a
> command (or its symbol), not to the result of calling the command.
>
> This is the opposite mistake from that made with `other-window' (returning
> the symbol instead of calling the function). As David suggested, you called
> `ya-ya' at key-binding time, so one of the symbols it returns at that time,
> not `ya-ya', gets bound to `M-o'.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Drew & David,
Thank you so much for your help! I wish Lisp had been my first
language, because then it would have been easier to remember how
simple and powerful command syntax can be. Althouth I've learned a
lot about Lisp in the past year, I'm still used to languages where
the syntax is more idiosyncratic and arbitrary. Because of this I
find myself making the sort of mistakes you have mentioned.
Anyway, here is the new code that works for anyone who is interested:
(defun ya-ya ()
(interactive) ; new
(if (cdr (window-list))
(other-window 1) ; command with argument
(call-interactively 'switch-to-buffer))) ; command called
interactively, argument to be passed at that time
(global-set-key "\M-o" 'ya-ya) ; command symbol passed, instead of the
last symbol returned by the function!
Your guidance has helped me quite a bit here. I plan on using this
same technique to contextualize my keybindings for more commands and
editing situations.
Thanks again,
Edward
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* Re: HELP: One Bindkey for Two Different Commands
2007-11-21 1:41 HELP: One Bindkey for Two Different Commands Edward
2007-11-21 3:20 ` Drew Adams
@ 2007-11-21 13:03 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-11-30 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Johan Bockgård @ 2007-11-21 13:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Edward <edward.dodge@gmail.com> writes:
> (if (cdr (window-list))
one-window-p
--
Johan Bockgård
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* Re: HELP: One Bindkey for Two Different Commands
2007-11-21 12:46 ` Edward
@ 2007-11-21 15:57 ` Mathias Dahl
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From: Mathias Dahl @ 2007-11-21 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Edward <edward.dodge@gmail.com> writes:
> (defun ya-ya ()
> (interactive) ; new
> (if (cdr (window-list))
> (other-window 1) ; command with argument
> (call-interactively 'switch-to-buffer))) ; command called
> interactively, argument to be passed at that time
Could it be that what you really want is this?
(defun ya-ya ()
(interactive)
(if (cdr (window-list))
(other-window 1)
(switch-to-buffer (other-buffer)))) ;; Switch to previous buffer
Just guessing... :)
/Mathias
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* Re: HELP: One Bindkey for Two Different Commands
2007-11-21 1:41 HELP: One Bindkey for Two Different Commands Edward
2007-11-21 3:20 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-21 13:03 ` Johan Bockgård
@ 2007-11-30 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-30 16:55 ` Drew Adams
2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2007-11-30 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> Unfortunately, this very simple idea doesn't seem to work for me.
> Here's what I have in my .emacs so far:
> (defun ya-ya ()
> (if (cdr (window-list))
> 'other-window
> 'switch-to-buffer))
> (global-set-key "\M-o" (ya-ya))
> Any ideas how this might be accomplished?
How 'bout some neat hack like:
(global-set-key "\M-o" '(menu-item "Foo" bar
:filter (lambda (x) (if (cdr (window-list))
'other-window
'switch-to-buffer))))
-- Stefan ;-)
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* RE: HELP: One Bindkey for Two Different Commands
2007-11-30 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2007-11-30 16:55 ` Drew Adams
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From: Drew Adams @ 2007-11-30 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier, help-gnu-emacs
> How 'bout some neat hack like:
>
> (global-set-key "\M-o" '(menu-item "Foo" bar
> :filter (lambda (x) (if (cdr (window-list))
> 'other-window
> 'switch-to-buffer))))
Chouette !
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