From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Create an invisible frame -? Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 12:48:03 -0700 Message-ID: References: <5127F582-B4EF-43B4-BDB0-8EF3B78DE4F3@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1117309890 3336 80.91.229.2 (28 May 2005 19:51:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 19:51:30 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 28 21:51:20 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dc7Kg-00028R-Pn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 May 2005 21:50:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dc7PD-0006ct-S8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:55:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dc7Of-0006LY-GO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:55:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dc7Oc-0006Ji-I8 for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:54:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dc7Oc-0006H9-4A for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:54:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [148.87.122.33] (helo=rgminet04.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1Dc7JA-0005M1-Ri for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:49:21 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet04.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgminet04.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.6/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id j4SJm8Yo015004 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 13:48:08 -0600 Original-Received: from rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.49]) by rgminet04.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.6/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id j4SJm7t9014981 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 13:48:07 -0600 Original-Received: from rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j4SJm7qa022468 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 13:48:07 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dhcp-amer-csvpn-gw1-141-144-64-151.vpn.oracle.com [141.144.64.151]) by rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with SMTP id j4SJm6TJ022461 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 13:48:06 -0600 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5127F582-B4EF-43B4-BDB0-8EF3B78DE4F3@gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:27048 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:27048 can someone tell me how to create an invisible frame? I tried setting visibility to nil in default-frame-alist, but that doesn't do the job. This works for me: (make-frame '((name . "foo") (visibility))) But you're right; if I do this, then `C-x 5 f RET bar', the resulting new frame is visible (visibility . t): (setq default-frame-alist (append '((visibility)) default-frame-alist)) I wonder if this doesn't represent a bug? HTH, Drew