* Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X @ 2012-03-03 17:36 jreeseue 2012-03-03 18:31 ` Christopher Schmidt ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: jreeseue @ 2012-03-03 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Help-gnu-emacs Hello, I am running OS X 10.7.3 with Emacs 24.0.94.1 and am experiencing a fairly long time for emacs to load. My .emacs file looks like (push "/usr/local/Cellar/emacs/HEAD/share/emacs/24.0.94/lisp" load-path) (add-hook 'c-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock) (show-paren-mode) (setq make-backup-files nil) ;; do not make backup files ;;keyboard navigation (define-key global-map (kbd "RET") 'newline-and-indent) (global-set-key "\C-n"(lambda () (interactive) (next-line 5))) (global-set-key "\C-p" (lambda () (interactive) (next-line -5))) (global-set-key "\C-u" (lambda () (interactive) (next-line -1))) (global-set-key "\C-o" (lambda () (interactive) (next-line 1))) (setq auto-mode-alist (cons '("\\.tex$" . latex-mode) auto-mode-alist)) (setq tex-mode-hook '(lambda ()(auto-fill-mode 1))) (defun count-words-region (start end) (interactive "r") (save-excursion (let ((n 0)) (goto-char start) (while (< (point) end) (if (forward-word 1) (setq n (1+ n)))) (message "Region has %d words" n) n))) ; hooks for text & latex modes (add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'turn-on-auto-fill) (add-hook (and 'tex-mode-hook 'text-mode-hook) 'flyspell-mode t Additionally, occasionally when emacs opens a file the formatting is completely different and some commands don't operate properly. I took this .emacs file from my previous machine which was running emacs 23 and am wondering if there is anything in here that could be causing these issues. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Emacs-24.0.94.1-slow-to-load-on-OS-X-tp33435127p33435127.html Sent from the Emacs - Help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X 2012-03-03 17:36 Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X jreeseue @ 2012-03-03 18:31 ` Christopher Schmidt 2012-03-03 19:41 ` jreeseue 2012-03-03 19:33 ` Peter Dyballa 2012-03-03 19:42 ` Peter Dyballa 2 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Christopher Schmidt @ 2012-03-03 18:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs jreeseue <jreeseue@gmail.com> writes: > Hello, I am running OS X 10.7.3 with Emacs 24.0.94.1 and am experiencing a > fairly long time for emacs to load. My .emacs file looks like > > (push "/usr/local/Cellar/emacs/HEAD/share/emacs/24.0.94/lisp" load-path) > > > (add-hook 'c-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock) > (show-paren-mode) > (setq make-backup-files nil) ;; do not make backup files > ;;keyboard navigation > (define-key global-map (kbd "RET") 'newline-and-indent) > (global-set-key "\C-n"(lambda () (interactive) (next-line 5))) > (global-set-key "\C-p" (lambda () (interactive) (next-line -5))) > (global-set-key "\C-u" (lambda () (interactive) (next-line -1))) > (global-set-key "\C-o" (lambda () (interactive) (next-line 1))) > > (setq auto-mode-alist (cons '("\\.tex$" . latex-mode) auto-mode-alist)) > > (setq tex-mode-hook > '(lambda ()(auto-fill-mode 1))) > > (defun count-words-region (start end) > (interactive "r") > (save-excursion > (let ((n 0)) > (goto-char start) > (while (< (point) end) > (if (forward-word 1) > (setq n (1+ n)))) > (message "Region has %d words" n) > n))) > > ; hooks for text & latex modes > (add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'turn-on-auto-fill) > (add-hook (and 'tex-mode-hook 'text-mode-hook) 'flyspell-mode t I cannot reproduce your problem with GNU Emacs 24.0.94.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.9) of 2012-03-01. ~$ time emacs -q -nw -f "save-buffers-kill-terminal" real 0m0.053s user 0m0.032s sys 0m0.020s ~$ time emacs -q -nw -l /tmp/jreeseue.el -f "save-buffers-kill-terminal" real 0m0.058s user 0m0.040s sys 0m0.016s BTW. add-hook is a regular function and (and 'tex-mode-hook 'text-mode-hook) evaluates to 'text-mode-hook! Christopher ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X 2012-03-03 18:31 ` Christopher Schmidt @ 2012-03-03 19:41 ` jreeseue 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: jreeseue @ 2012-03-03 19:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Help-gnu-emacs Thanks for the reply. Yes that line in the configuration file didn't make sense. I've changed it to: (add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'flyspell-mode t) I did a test similar to yours to demonstrate the issue: 19:37@legolas:Variable.java -f "save-buffers-kill-terminal" real 0m4.518s user 0m0.138s sys 0m0.028s Christopher Schmidt-6 wrote: > > jreeseue <jreeseue@gmail.com> writes: > >> Hello, I am running OS X 10.7.3 with Emacs 24.0.94.1 and am experiencing >> a >> fairly long time for emacs to load. My .emacs file looks like >> >> (push "/usr/local/Cellar/emacs/HEAD/share/emacs/24.0.94/lisp" load-path) >> >> >> (add-hook 'c-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock) >> (show-paren-mode) >> (setq make-backup-files nil) ;; do not make backup files >> ;;keyboard navigation >> (define-key global-map (kbd "RET") 'newline-and-indent) >> (global-set-key "\C-n"(lambda () (interactive) (next-line 5))) >> (global-set-key "\C-p" (lambda () (interactive) (next-line -5))) >> (global-set-key "\C-u" (lambda () (interactive) (next-line -1))) >> (global-set-key "\C-o" (lambda () (interactive) (next-line 1))) >> >> (setq auto-mode-alist (cons '("\\.tex$" . latex-mode) auto-mode-alist)) >> >> (setq tex-mode-hook >> '(lambda ()(auto-fill-mode 1))) >> >> (defun count-words-region (start end) >> (interactive "r") >> (save-excursion >> (let ((n 0)) >> (goto-char start) >> (while (< (point) end) >> (if (forward-word 1) >> (setq n (1+ n)))) >> (message "Region has %d words" n) >> n))) >> >> ; hooks for text & latex modes >> (add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'turn-on-auto-fill) >> (add-hook (and 'tex-mode-hook 'text-mode-hook) 'flyspell-mode t > > I cannot reproduce your problem with GNU Emacs 24.0.94.1 > (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.9) of 2012-03-01. > > ~$ time emacs -q -nw -f "save-buffers-kill-terminal" > > real 0m0.053s > user 0m0.032s > sys 0m0.020s > > ~$ time emacs -q -nw -l /tmp/jreeseue.el -f "save-buffers-kill-terminal" > > real 0m0.058s > user 0m0.040s > sys 0m0.016s > > BTW. add-hook is a regular function and (and 'tex-mode-hook > 'text-mode-hook) evaluates to 'text-mode-hook! > > Christopher > > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Emacs-24.0.94.1-slow-to-load-on-OS-X-tp33435127p33435621.html Sent from the Emacs - Help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X 2012-03-03 17:36 Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X jreeseue 2012-03-03 18:31 ` Christopher Schmidt @ 2012-03-03 19:33 ` Peter Dyballa 2012-03-03 19:42 ` Peter Dyballa 2 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Peter Dyballa @ 2012-03-03 19:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: jreeseue; +Cc: Help-gnu-emacs Am 3.3.2012 um 18:36 schrieb jreeseue: > (push "/usr/local/Cellar/emacs/HEAD/share/emacs/24.0.94/lisp" load-path) What is this good for? (Still using Snow Leopard.) -- Greetings Pete If it should exist, it doesn't. – Arnold's First Law of Documentation ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X 2012-03-03 17:36 Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X jreeseue 2012-03-03 18:31 ` Christopher Schmidt 2012-03-03 19:33 ` Peter Dyballa @ 2012-03-03 19:42 ` Peter Dyballa 2012-03-03 19:46 ` jreeseue 2 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Peter Dyballa @ 2012-03-03 19:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: jreeseue; +Cc: Help-gnu-emacs Am 3.3.2012 um 18:36 schrieb jreeseue: > experiencing a fairly long time for emacs to load Do you have network problems? I think when launching the just built GNU Emacs from the src directory it does some network access, comes up with the fully qualified domain name in the title which must have come from DNS. -- Greetings Pete What is this talk of 'release?' Klingons do not make software 'releases.' Our software 'escapes,' leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X 2012-03-03 19:42 ` Peter Dyballa @ 2012-03-03 19:46 ` jreeseue 2012-03-03 21:18 ` Peter Dyballa 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: jreeseue @ 2012-03-03 19:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Help-gnu-emacs Hmm...I'm not sure about the network issue. I've tried this both at my home and at my University. Peter Dyballa wrote: > > > Am 3.3.2012 um 18:36 schrieb jreeseue: > >> experiencing a fairly long time for emacs to load > > Do you have network problems? I think when launching the just built GNU > Emacs from the src directory it does some network access, comes up with > the fully qualified domain name in the title which must have come from > DNS. > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > What is this talk of 'release?' Klingons do not make software 'releases.' > Our software 'escapes,' leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality > assurance people in its wake. > > > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Emacs-24.0.94.1-slow-to-load-on-OS-X-tp33435127p33435638.html Sent from the Emacs - Help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X 2012-03-03 19:46 ` jreeseue @ 2012-03-03 21:18 ` Peter Dyballa 2012-03-03 21:27 ` jreeseue 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Peter Dyballa @ 2012-03-03 21:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: jreeseue; +Cc: Help-gnu-emacs Am 3.3.2012 um 20:46 schrieb jreeseue: > Hmm...I'm not sure about the network issue. What is this push command good for? > I've tried this both at my home and at my University. How did you try? Which command did you use from the command line? Did you also try with the -Q argument? The command 'emacs --help' can give some explanation. -- Greetings Pete If it does exist, it's out of date. – Arnold's Second Law of Documentation ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X 2012-03-03 21:18 ` Peter Dyballa @ 2012-03-03 21:27 ` jreeseue 2012-03-03 21:52 ` Peter Dyballa 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: jreeseue @ 2012-03-03 21:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Help-gnu-emacs Thanks for the reply. I posted a couple tests in an earlier reply but here is one with -Q: 21:21@legolas:emacs -Q ReturnClass.java -f "save-buffers-kill-terminal" real 0m4.516s user 0m0.130s sys 0m0.023s In addition I just did a broadband speed test and my download speed was clocked at 11669 kbps any my upload speed was clocked at 35969 kbps. Peter Dyballa wrote: > > > Am 3.3.2012 um 20:46 schrieb jreeseue: > >> Hmm...I'm not sure about the network issue. > > What is this push command good for? > >> I've tried this both at my home and at my University. > > How did you try? Which command did you use from the command line? Did you > also try with the -Q argument? The command 'emacs --help' can give some > explanation. > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > If it does exist, it's out of date. > – Arnold's Second Law of Documentation > > > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Emacs-24.0.94.1-slow-to-load-on-OS-X-tp33435127p33435970.html Sent from the Emacs - Help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X 2012-03-03 21:27 ` jreeseue @ 2012-03-03 21:52 ` Peter Dyballa 2012-03-03 22:19 ` jreeseue 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Peter Dyballa @ 2012-03-03 21:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: jreeseue; +Cc: Help-gnu-emacs Am 3.3.2012 um 22:27 schrieb jreeseue: > In addition I just did a broadband speed test and my download speed was > clocked at 11669 kbps any my upload speed was clocked at 35969 kbps. How fast is DNS response? What is this push command in your init file good for? Did you try with --debug-init? Did look into the *Messages* buffer? While GNU Emacs launches so slow did you check with lsof which files and network connections it opens? -- Greetings Pete With Capitalism man exploits man. With communism it's the exact opposite. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X 2012-03-03 21:52 ` Peter Dyballa @ 2012-03-03 22:19 ` jreeseue 2012-03-03 23:29 ` Peter Dyballa 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: jreeseue @ 2012-03-03 22:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Help-gnu-emacs Not sure about DNS response (not terribly sure how to determine). I've taken the push statement out of the init file. I've posted my current init file in a previous post. I've closed all internet connections and run --debug init and this is my *Messages* buffer: ("emacs" ".emacs") For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. I've also done a netstat to see what is going on connection wise: 22:10@legolas:$ netstat -a Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) tcp4 0 0 c052160.wlan.net.53618 st11p01st-courie.5223 ESTABLISHED tcp4 0 0 *.ssh *.* LISTEN tcp6 0 0 *.ssh *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 localhost.ipp *.* LISTEN tcp6 0 0 localhost.ipp *.* LISTEN udp4 0 0 c052160.wlan.net.ntp *.* udp6 0 0 *.63559 *.* udp4 0 0 *.63559 *.* udp6 0 0 *.54947 *.* udp4 0 0 *.54947 *.* udp6 0 0 *.51715 *.* udp4 0 0 *.51715 *.* udp6 0 0 *.57985 *.* udp4 0 0 *.57985 *.* udp6 0 0 *.57943 *.* udp4 0 0 *.57943 *.* udp6 0 0 *.56289 *.* udp4 0 0 *.56289 *.* udp6 0 0 *.57602 *.* udp4 0 0 *.57602 *.* udp6 0 0 *.60944 *.* udp4 0 0 *.60944 *.* udp6 0 0 *.54815 *.* udp4 0 0 *.54815 *.* udp6 0 0 *.60870 *.* udp4 0 0 *.60870 *.* udp6 0 0 legolas.local.ntp *.* udp4 0 0 *.* *.* udp4 0 0 *.* *.* udp6 0 0 localhost.ntp *.* udp4 0 0 localhost.ntp *.* udp6 0 0 localhost.ntp *.* udp6 0 0 *.ntp 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> Am 3.3.2012 um 22:27 schrieb jreeseue: > >> In addition I just did a broadband speed test and my download speed was >> clocked at 11669 kbps any my upload speed was clocked at 35969 kbps. > > How fast is DNS response? What is this push command in your init file good > for? Did you try with --debug-init? Did look into the *Messages* buffer? > While GNU Emacs launches so slow did you check with lsof which files and > network connections it opens? > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > With Capitalism man exploits man. With communism it's the exact opposite. > > > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Emacs-24.0.94.1-slow-to-load-on-OS-X-tp33435127p33436129.html Sent from the Emacs - Help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X 2012-03-03 22:19 ` jreeseue @ 2012-03-03 23:29 ` Peter Dyballa 2012-03-04 15:42 ` jreeseue 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Peter Dyballa @ 2012-03-03 23:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: jreeseue; +Cc: Help-gnu-emacs Am 3.3.2012 um 23:19 schrieb jreeseue: > Not sure about DNS response (not terribly sure how to determine). Maybe 'time nslookup apple.com'? Or 'dig' or lookup with 'host -a' your NTP server with time. > I've taken > the push statement out of the init file. I've posted my current init file in > a previous post. I've closed all internet connections and run --debug init > and this is my *Messages* buffer: > ("emacs" ".emacs") > For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. This looks very good. Although the correct invocation is 'emacs --debug-init' > > I've also done a netstat to see what is going on connection wise: > 22:10@legolas:$ netstat -a But this looks bad! It does not show the network connections related to GNU Emacs. I have not really a good idea. It might bring some insight configuring and building GNU Emacs again, with that was found and enabled before now disabled via --without-<that configure option>. If this emacs is normal, fast launching, you can start to add/enable configure options one by one until one brings back that slowness. Then you'll have your first culprit. -- Greetings Pete You can learn many things from children. How much patience you have, for instance. – Franklin P. Jones ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X 2012-03-03 23:29 ` Peter Dyballa @ 2012-03-04 15:42 ` jreeseue 2012-03-05 16:08 ` jreeseue 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: jreeseue @ 2012-03-04 15:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Help-gnu-emacs Well I've done a reinstall of Emacs and this seems, so far, to be working out much better. The worst load time I've experienced since the reinstall is .5s. Might have been something going on there. But I will post again if there is trouble in the future. Thanks for your replies and help, I very much appreciate it. Peter Dyballa wrote: > > > Am 3.3.2012 um 23:19 schrieb jreeseue: > >> Not sure about DNS response (not terribly sure how to determine). > > Maybe 'time nslookup apple.com'? Or 'dig' or lookup with 'host -a' your > NTP server with time. > >> I've taken >> the push statement out of the init file. I've posted my current init file >> in >> a previous post. I've closed all internet connections and run --debug >> init >> and this is my *Messages* buffer: >> ("emacs" ".emacs") >> For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. > > This looks very good. Although the correct invocation is 'emacs > --debug-init' > >> >> I've also done a netstat to see what is going on connection wise: >> 22:10@legolas:$ netstat -a > > But this looks bad! It does not show the network connections related to > GNU Emacs. > > > I have not really a good idea. It might bring some insight configuring and > building GNU Emacs again, with that was found and enabled before now > disabled via --without-<that configure option>. If this emacs is normal, > fast launching, you can start to add/enable configure options one by one > until one brings back that slowness. Then you'll have your first culprit. > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > You can learn many things from children. How much patience you have, for > instance. > – Franklin P. Jones > > > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Emacs-24.0.94.1-slow-to-load-on-OS-X-tp33435127p33438629.html Sent from the Emacs - Help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X 2012-03-04 15:42 ` jreeseue @ 2012-03-05 16:08 ` jreeseue 2012-03-05 18:54 ` Peter Dyballa 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: jreeseue @ 2012-03-05 16:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Help-gnu-emacs Ah, so apparently this hasn't solved the problem. I reinstalled emacs 24 from homebrew and was still experiencing slow load times. So, I downloaded emacs 23 and built it from the source with nox. I am still experiencing slow load times, even with all the lines in my .emacs file commented out: 16:00@legolas:~$ time emacs .emacs -f "save-buffers-kill-terminal" real 0m4.412s user 0m0.032s sys 0m0.011s As per a pervious request: 16:00@legolas:~$ time nslookup apple.com Server: 129.215.70.239 Address: 129.215.70.239#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: apple.com Address: 17.149.160.49 Name: apple.com Address: 17.172.224.47 real 0m1.018s user 0m0.009s sys 0m0.005s If this is a network issue is there anything I can do about it? I was running this same version of emacs (on the same wi-fi connections) on my previous macbook pro which was running Snow Leopard and didn't experience these issues. Any ideas? jreeseue wrote: > > Well I've done a reinstall of Emacs and this seems, so far, to be working > out much better. The worst load time I've experienced since the reinstall > is .5s. Might have been something going on there. But I will post again if > there is trouble in the future. Thanks for your replies and help, I very > much appreciate it. > > > Peter Dyballa wrote: >> >> >> Am 3.3.2012 um 23:19 schrieb jreeseue: >> >>> Not sure about DNS response (not terribly sure how to determine). >> >> Maybe 'time nslookup apple.com'? Or 'dig' or lookup with 'host -a' your >> NTP server with time. >> >>> I've taken >>> the push statement out of the init file. I've posted my current init >>> file in >>> a previous post. I've closed all internet connections and run --debug >>> init >>> and this is my *Messages* buffer: >>> ("emacs" ".emacs") >>> For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. >> >> This looks very good. Although the correct invocation is 'emacs >> --debug-init' >> >>> >>> I've also done a netstat to see what is going on connection wise: >>> 22:10@legolas:$ netstat -a >> >> But this looks bad! It does not show the network connections related to >> GNU Emacs. >> >> >> I have not really a good idea. It might bring some insight configuring >> and building GNU Emacs again, with that was found and enabled before now >> disabled via --without-<that configure option>. If this emacs is normal, >> fast launching, you can start to add/enable configure options one by one >> until one brings back that slowness. Then you'll have your first culprit. >> >> -- >> Greetings >> >> Pete >> >> You can learn many things from children. How much patience you have, for >> instance. >> – Franklin P. Jones >> >> >> >> > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Emacs-24.0.94.1-slow-to-load-on-OS-X-tp33435127p33444508.html Sent from the Emacs - Help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X 2012-03-05 16:08 ` jreeseue @ 2012-03-05 18:54 ` Peter Dyballa 2012-03-05 21:04 ` jreeseue 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Peter Dyballa @ 2012-03-05 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: jreeseue; +Cc: Help-gnu-emacs Am 5.3.2012 um 17:08 schrieb jreeseue: > 16:00@legolas:~$ time nslookup apple.com > Server: 129.215.70.239 > Address: 129.215.70.239#53 > > Non-authoritative answer: > Name: apple.com > Address: 17.149.160.49 > Name: apple.com > Address: 17.172.224.47 > > > real 0m1.018s > user 0m0.009s > sys 0m0.005s No, that's probably not a network problem! The user and system times are as short as one would assume. The issue is with the real time used, from pressing RET until some text appeared on screen. This time is 1 sec too long, i.e., by a factor of 70. Could be you're missing some GB of RAM and your Mac is constantly swapping. Little tools like MenuMeters or iStat menus could display in the menu bar what's going on. In /private/var/vm the system stores the swap files. An easy check is to reboot your Mac, not opening any unnecessary applications, and then launching GNU Emacs. Launching GNU Emacs your way is not the correct way. Check fast with 'emacs --help'! Instead of emacs .emacs -f "save-buffers-kill-terminal" you could use emacs -q -l <some file with ELisp code> -f "save-buffers-kill-terminal" or emacs -Q -l <some file with ELisp code> -f "save-buffers-kill-terminal" -- Greetings <] Pete o __o |__ o recumbo ___o /I -\<, |o \ -\),-% ergo sum! ___/\ /\___./ \___...O/ O____.....`-O-'-()--o_________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X 2012-03-05 18:54 ` Peter Dyballa @ 2012-03-05 21:04 ` jreeseue 2012-03-05 21:48 ` Peter Dyballa 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: jreeseue @ 2012-03-05 21:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Help-gnu-emacs So, as requested I've done a reboot, retested, and examined MenuMeters. What I've found is that after a fresh reboot this is the time to open emacs: 20:56@legolas:~$ time emacs -Q -l /usr/share/emacs/22.1/site-lisp/subdirs.el -f "save-buffers-kill-terminal" real 0m1.546s user 0m0.456s sys 0m0.071s This is the nslookup time: 20:57@legolas:~$ time nslookup apple.com Server: 192.168.1.254 Address: 192.168.1.254#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: apple.com Address: 17.149.160.49 Name: apple.com Address: 17.172.224.47 real 0m0.071s user 0m0.006s sys 0m0.023s All of this was gathered with the following memory information: Memory Usage: 1,833.3 MB used, 6,357.0 MB free, 8,190MB total Memory Pages: 710.1MB active, 1,123.2MB wired 108.9MB inactive, 6,248.1MB free VM Statistics: 42,361 pageins, 0 pageouts 21,222 cache lookups, 9 cache hits (0.0%) 1,083,315 page faults, 43,046 copy-on-writes Swap Files: 1 encrypted swap file present in /private/var/vm 1 swap file at peak usage 64MB total swap space (0MB used) As a side note, I haven't experienced any lag when using emacs 22. The only reason I upgraded was because emacs 22 wasn't doing syntax highlighting on comments in Java. If there is a easy way to change this I would happily go back to emacs 22 hopefully bring this to an end :) Thanks again for all your help! Peter Dyballa wrote: > > > Am 5.3.2012 um 17:08 schrieb jreeseue: > >> 16:00@legolas:~$ time nslookup apple.com >> Server: 129.215.70.239 >> Address: 129.215.70.239#53 >> >> Non-authoritative answer: >> Name: apple.com >> Address: 17.149.160.49 >> Name: apple.com >> Address: 17.172.224.47 >> >> >> real 0m1.018s >> user 0m0.009s >> sys 0m0.005s > > > No, that's probably not a network problem! The user and system times are > as short as one would assume. The issue is with the real time used, from > pressing RET until some text appeared on screen. This time is 1 sec too > long, i.e., by a factor of 70. > > Could be you're missing some GB of RAM and your Mac is constantly > swapping. Little tools like MenuMeters or iStat menus could display in the > menu bar what's going on. In /private/var/vm the system stores the swap > files. An easy check is to reboot your Mac, not opening any unnecessary > applications, and then launching GNU Emacs. > > > Launching GNU Emacs your way is not the correct way. Check fast with > 'emacs --help'! Instead of > > emacs .emacs -f "save-buffers-kill-terminal" > > you could use > > emacs -q -l <some file with ELisp code> -f "save-buffers-kill-terminal" > > or > > emacs -Q -l <some file with ELisp code> -f "save-buffers-kill-terminal" > > > -- > Greetings > <] > Pete o __o |__ o recumbo > ___o /I -\<, |o \ -\),-% ergo sum! > ___/\ /\___./ \___...O/ O____.....`-O-'-()--o_________________ > > > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Emacs-24.0.94.1-slow-to-load-on-OS-X-tp33435127p33446868.html Sent from the Emacs - Help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X 2012-03-05 21:04 ` jreeseue @ 2012-03-05 21:48 ` Peter Dyballa 2012-03-05 22:03 ` jreeseue 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Peter Dyballa @ 2012-03-05 21:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: jreeseue; +Cc: Help-gnu-emacs Am 5.3.2012 um 22:04 schrieb jreeseue: > As a side note, I haven't experienced any lag when using emacs 22. The only > reason I upgraded was because emacs 22 wasn't doing syntax highlighting on > comments in Java. If there is a easy way to change this I would happily go > back to emacs 22 hopefully bring this to an end :) I have no idea, I'm not using Java that much. Hopefully others cn help here... The performance data you sent looks quite good. Working with Java I can imagine that faulty Java code can easily use up a few GB of memory so that the system has to perform swapping. With 8 GB or RAM and 8 GB of swap a Mac gets slow. It's easy to feel, though I did not measure but reboot, which is faster than on this other OS... The number of cache hits looks terribly bad! Although my system is up since three weeks it has exactly 0.0 % as well. -- Greetings Pete _o o o o _<< \\_/\_, \\_ \\_/\_, (*)/(*) (*) (*) (*) `- (*) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X 2012-03-05 21:48 ` Peter Dyballa @ 2012-03-05 22:03 ` jreeseue 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: jreeseue @ 2012-03-05 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Help-gnu-emacs Finally, I've gone back to emacs 22 and added this line to my .emacs: (custom-set-faces '(font-lock-comment-face ((((class color) (min-colors 8) (background light)) (:foreground "red")))))(add-hook 'java-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock) Which has turned on comment highlighting for me and everything seems to be running smoothly. Thanks again for all the help! Josh Peter Dyballa wrote: > > > Am 5.3.2012 um 22:04 schrieb jreeseue: > >> As a side note, I haven't experienced any lag when using emacs 22. The >> only >> reason I upgraded was because emacs 22 wasn't doing syntax highlighting >> on >> comments in Java. If there is a easy way to change this I would happily >> go >> back to emacs 22 hopefully bring this to an end :) > > I have no idea, I'm not using Java that much. Hopefully others cn help > here... > > The performance data you sent looks quite good. Working with Java I can > imagine that faulty Java code can easily use up a few GB of memory so that > the system has to perform swapping. With 8 GB or RAM and 8 GB of swap a > Mac gets slow. It's easy to feel, though I did not measure but reboot, > which is faster than on this other OS... > > The number of cache hits looks terribly bad! Although my system is up > since three weeks it has exactly 0.0 % as well. > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > _o o o o > _<< \\_/\_, \\_ \\_/\_, > (*)/(*) (*) (*) (*) `- (*) > > > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Emacs-24.0.94.1-slow-to-load-on-OS-X-tp33435127p33447241.html Sent from the Emacs - Help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2012-03-05 22:03 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 17+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 2012-03-03 17:36 Emacs 24.0.94.1 slow to load on OS X jreeseue 2012-03-03 18:31 ` Christopher Schmidt 2012-03-03 19:41 ` jreeseue 2012-03-03 19:33 ` Peter Dyballa 2012-03-03 19:42 ` Peter Dyballa 2012-03-03 19:46 ` jreeseue 2012-03-03 21:18 ` Peter Dyballa 2012-03-03 21:27 ` jreeseue 2012-03-03 21:52 ` Peter Dyballa 2012-03-03 22:19 ` jreeseue 2012-03-03 23:29 ` Peter Dyballa 2012-03-04 15:42 ` jreeseue 2012-03-05 16:08 ` jreeseue 2012-03-05 18:54 ` Peter Dyballa 2012-03-05 21:04 ` jreeseue 2012-03-05 21:48 ` Peter Dyballa 2012-03-05 22:03 ` jreeseue
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