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From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: Eduardo Ochs <eduardoochs@gmail.com>
Cc: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>,
	help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
	Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Subject: Re: How users start programming in Emacs Lisp...
Date: Sun, 30 May 2021 13:43:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DB9PR09MB498655B67AE7E119160A70E696209@DB9PR09MB4986.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADs++6j9sSeJM5hSxwLMRhf5tce+EuyAcXUY9hrmEm58J9sCsQ@mail.gmail.com> (Eduardo Ochs's message of "Sun, 30 May 2021 01:32:33 -0300")

Eduardo Ochs <eduardoochs@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sat, 29 May 2021 at 23:12, Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 10:37 AM
>> > From: "Jean Louis" <bugs@gnu.support>
>> > To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
>> > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
>> > Subject: How users start programming in Emacs Lisp...
>> >
>> > (...)
>> >
>> > *scratch* buffer is famous for it.
>> >
>> > I just need more of them but *scratch*, so I do it this way:
>
>
> Hi, just a curiosity...
>
> why do you prefer to use scratch buffers for elisp code instead of
> using (semi-scratch?) files in which we record all our experiments?
>
> In the tutorials of eev I try to convince the new users to treat their
> notes and scratch code as "field notes", and save everything they
> can... one of my arguments is this:
>
>   Learning eev is also like learning to use paper notebooks. It is
>   much easier to understand the notes and ideas what we wrote
>   ourselves in our notebooks than to understand what other people
>   wrote in their notebooks... when we go back to what _we_ wrote we
>   are able to reconnect with what we were thinking, even when our
>   notes are quite terse because we did not write down all details -
>   and we can't do that with other people's notes.

I think you are probably correct about saving notes. Some vary famious
scientists attribute almost everything to their notes. Maybe a
self-saving scratch buffer isn't bad idea. It could maybe append a date
and always open "fresh" but the true file would be save in the
background, as a sort of a database. Sort of like we clear the terminal
screen with Ctrl+l but the output is still there, just not
visible. There probably is some note-taking package that already does
that. Maybe some org-capture template that auto puts note in a lisp src
block. Or maybe your eev already does that. Still didn't try it. It
seems so conceptually big to me so I never get to it. Similar as that
other package Hyperbole.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-30 11:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-29 20:08 Fortran Topics (outline-minor-mode, require, fixed format) ludvig-faddeev
2021-05-29 20:14 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-29 20:48   ` Jean Louis
2021-05-29 21:26     ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-29 21:56       ` Jean Louis
2021-05-29 22:07         ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-29 22:37           ` How users start programming in Emacs Lisp Jean Louis
2021-05-30  1:06             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-30  2:11             ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-30  4:32               ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-05-30  7:05                 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30  7:51                   ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-05-30  8:31                     ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 19:27                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-30 22:27                       ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 22:41                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-30 22:52                           ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 11:43                 ` Arthur Miller [this message]
2021-05-30 12:08                   ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-30 19:35                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-30 21:54                       ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 22:06                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-30 22:38                           ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 22:46                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-30 22:56                               ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 23:02                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-30 23:35                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-05-31  0:21                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-01 14:09                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-06-01 21:09                       ` Christopher Dimech
2021-06-01 21:54                       ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-30 14:44                   ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-05-30 15:23                     ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-05-30 19:41                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-30 19:59                         ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-05-31 17:59                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-05-30 19:37                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-01 10:29                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-06-01 11:40                       ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-06-01 16:30                         ` Jean Louis
2021-06-02  0:54                           ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-06-02  3:43                             ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 15:35                   ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-05-30 19:42                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-01 10:23                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-30 19:31                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-01 10:22                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-06-01 10:30                       ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-30 19:23                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-30 21:33                   ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 21:43                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-30 22:05                       ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 22:16                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-30 22:41                           ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 22:49                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-30 23:01                               ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 23:07                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-30 23:36                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-05-31  0:25                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-31  0:34                                 ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-05-31  8:09                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 22:49                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-05-30 22:18                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-30 22:50                           ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 22:59                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-30 23:25                               ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30  5:46               ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 10:32                 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-30 10:35                   ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 11:08                     ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-30 11:19                       ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 13:55                         ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-30 15:54                           ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 17:22                             ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-30 18:57                               ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30 19:48                               ` Jean Louis
2021-05-31 20:30                                 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-31 21:53                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-05-29 20:36 ` Fortran Topics (outline-minor-mode, require, fixed format) Jean Louis
2021-05-29 20:51   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-29 21:00     ` Jean Louis
2021-05-29 21:27       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-29 22:00         ` Jean Louis
2021-05-30  2:04 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-30  2:06   ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor

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