From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Francis Belliveau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Proposal: "C-z " reserved for users Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 19:52:18 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1973673328.2493716.1612740554692.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1973673328.2493716.1612740554692@mail.yahoo.com> <83tuqnkzff.fsf@gnu.org> <87czxap89f.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.20.0.2.21\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29165"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Help GNU Emacs , Emanuel Berg To: Skip Montanaro Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 11 01:53:07 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lA0ED-0007R4-Hq for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 01:53:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50528 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lA0EC-0001wc-ID for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 19:53:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36798) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lA0Dc-0001wR-Sm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 19:52:28 -0500 Original-Received: from resqmta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net ([2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:43]:57696) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lA0DZ-0001er-Q5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 19:52:27 -0500 Original-Received: from resomta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.99]) by resqmta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id 9xbblWjhBjtOrA0DYlzBJa; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 00:52:24 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=20190202a; t=1613004744; bh=qeN4OiHRmFy+bGpNTkbKsp3eEkmd8Lcay6I87h0qzXk=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=S0CT1+MkCxe6pI18T7BPdzdUhGuAziDvCJ+f3ekvzVygx6bsFsGwKPDlC1HDYSRXu OYBLD12+JfbGsBXN+HIVfU0L9+KgdWxx8v7EjxaBRVR8hXdiXva3dxm5oKxEUKDPO3 WmU7VZdGLu7pr1zd/fIVatIzJ+vwWPS15dH7RDjZIL4br3Ckkk+gn/GDMSydLz6DdQ nwLfHEgNrZD1bXTt2DO54rqXDFDQJYPENbMN2RDd75SmwCGQGrTsiLrYxb46ltYqIL RF7/aMJXYhXzNYJdzUwwerr8gZYro4yC9ycVF4MHxEbh9PpiHHGEWl/c/mSwJsmJ23 DeSvYEXT80eqw== Original-Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([73.119.168.97]) by resomta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPSA id A0DUlvQQUM6HJA0DWl53YR; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 00:52:23 +0000 X-Xfinity-VAAS: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrheekgddvjecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucevohhmtggrshhtqdftvghsihdpqfgfvfdppffquffrtefokffrnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpegtggfuhfgjfffgkfhfvffosehtjehmtdhhtddvnecuhfhrohhmpefhrhgrnhgtihhsuceuvghllhhivhgvrghuuceofhdrsggvlhhlihhvvggruhestghomhgtrghsthdrnhgvtheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnheptdfgfffhhfettedvgeetleefjefgfeejfeevveekudejheeghfefueelfeegvedtnecukfhppeejfedrudduledrudeikedrleejnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheplgduledvrdduieekrddurddutdehngdpihhnvghtpeejfedrudduledrudeikedrleejpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepfhdrsggvlhhlihhvvggruhestghomhgtrghsthdrnhgvthdprhgtphhtthhopehskhhiphdrmhhonhhtrghnrghrohesghhmrghilhdrtghomhdprhgtphhtthhopehmohgrshgvnhifohhougesiihohhho rdgvuhdprhgtphhtthhopehhvghlphdqghhnuhdqvghmrggtshesghhnuhdrohhrgh X-Xfinity-VMeta: sc=-100.00;st=legit In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.20.0.2.21) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:43; envelope-from=f.belliveau@comcast.net; helo=resqmta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:127793 Archived-At: I have had it actually "exit" on me when I didn't want it to. That's what I call dangerous. I agree that normally it is only Disruptive. > On Feb 8, 2021, at 19:52, Skip Montanaro wrote: > >> >>> It is certainly a dangerous function to have mapped to such >>> an easy key to hit >> >> Agree 100%: >> >> (put 'suspend-frame 'disabled t) >> (global-unset-key "\C-z") >> (global-unset-key "\C-x\C-z") >> > > In what way is it dangerous? At least on the various Unix and Linux systems > I've used over the years, the worst that happens is that it hides/iconifies > the frame. Just reopen it. > > It definitely should not be disabled in tty mode. > > Skip