* white is #e5e5e5 @ 2011-01-24 5:53 Warren Harris 2011-01-24 17:36 ` Warren Harris 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Warren Harris @ 2011-01-24 5:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs When I run emacsclient -nw in my Apple Terminal, I get a dark grey background instead of white like I expect. Here's what list-colors-display shows: black black #000000 red red #cd0000 green green #00cd00 yellow yellow #cdcd00 blue blue #0000ee magenta magenta #cd00cd cyan cyan #00cdcd white white #e5e5e5 How can I fix this? Thanks, Warren ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: white is #e5e5e5 2011-01-24 5:53 white is #e5e5e5 Warren Harris @ 2011-01-24 17:36 ` Warren Harris 2011-01-24 21:03 ` Perry Smith 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Warren Harris @ 2011-01-24 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Warren Harris; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs I should add that my Apple Terminal is ssh'd to a Ubuntu 10.04.1 workstation when this happens... so the problem may be related to the linux configuration interacting with an 8-color terminal. Warren On Jan 23, 2011, at 9:53 PM, Warren Harris wrote: > When I run emacsclient -nw in my Apple Terminal, I get a dark grey background instead of white like I expect. Here's what list-colors-display shows: > > black black #000000 > red red #cd0000 > green green #00cd00 > yellow yellow #cdcd00 > blue blue #0000ee > magenta magenta #cd00cd > cyan cyan #00cdcd > white white #e5e5e5 > > How can I fix this? Thanks, > > Warren ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: white is #e5e5e5 2011-01-24 17:36 ` Warren Harris @ 2011-01-24 21:03 ` Perry Smith 2011-01-24 21:11 ` Warren Harris 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Perry Smith @ 2011-01-24 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Warren Harris; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs On Jan 24, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Warren Harris wrote: > On Jan 23, 2011, at 9:53 PM, Warren Harris wrote: > >> When I run emacsclient -nw in my Apple Terminal, I get a dark grey background instead of white like I expect. Here's what list-colors-display shows: >> >> black black #000000 >> red red #cd0000 >> green green #00cd00 >> yellow yellow #cdcd00 >> blue blue #0000ee >> magenta magenta #cd00cd >> cyan cyan #00cdcd >> white white #e5e5e5 >> >> How can I fix this? Thanks, > I should add that my Apple Terminal is ssh'd to a Ubuntu 10.04.1 workstation when this happens... so the problem may be related to the linux configuration interacting with an 8-color terminal. I wish I could play with it and see what you are talking about and experiment around some. What is TERM set to? You might be able to set it do something more fitting to get better colors. Also, the Mac has X11. You could ssh with -Y over to the Ubuntu box and start up emacs as an X11 client. Perry ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: white is #e5e5e5 2011-01-24 21:03 ` Perry Smith @ 2011-01-24 21:11 ` Warren Harris 2011-01-24 22:32 ` Perry Smith 2011-01-25 11:56 ` Tassilo Horn 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Warren Harris @ 2011-01-24 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Perry Smith; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 293 bytes --] On Jan 24, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Perry Smith wrote: > > I wish I could play with it and see what you are talking about and experiment around some. > > What is TERM set to? You might be able to set it do something more fitting to get better colors. TERM is set to xterm-color. Warren [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 593 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: white is #e5e5e5 2011-01-24 21:11 ` Warren Harris @ 2011-01-24 22:32 ` Perry Smith 2011-01-24 22:38 ` Warren Harris 2011-01-25 11:56 ` Tassilo Horn 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Perry Smith @ 2011-01-24 22:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Warren Harris; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 652 bytes --] On Jan 24, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Warren Harris wrote: > > On Jan 24, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Perry Smith wrote: >> >> I wish I could play with it and see what you are talking about and experiment around some. >> >> What is TERM set to? You might be able to set it do something more fitting to get better colors. > > TERM is set to xterm-color. I'm trying to recreate this as close as I can... your original post said you do "emacsclient -nw" but that would tie back to an existing emacs (I think). Is that part correct? Also, what version of emacs is on Ubuntu? (And just for curiosity, what version do you have on your Mac? [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1214 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: white is #e5e5e5 2011-01-24 22:32 ` Perry Smith @ 2011-01-24 22:38 ` Warren Harris 2011-01-24 23:12 ` Perry Smith 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Warren Harris @ 2011-01-24 22:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Perry Smith; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 889 bytes --] On Jan 24, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Perry Smith wrote: > > On Jan 24, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Warren Harris wrote: > >> >> On Jan 24, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Perry Smith wrote: >>> >>> I wish I could play with it and see what you are talking about and experiment around some. >>> >>> What is TERM set to? You might be able to set it do something more fitting to get better colors. >> >> TERM is set to xterm-color. > > I'm trying to recreate this as close as I can... your original post said you do > > "emacsclient -nw" > > but that would tie back to an existing emacs (I think). Is that part correct? Yes. I previously ran emacs --daemon. > > Also, what version of emacs is on Ubuntu? (And just for curiosity, what version > do you have on your Mac? > > GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of 2010-11-23 on yellow, modified by Debian [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1792 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: white is #e5e5e5 2011-01-24 22:38 ` Warren Harris @ 2011-01-24 23:12 ` Perry Smith 2011-01-24 23:25 ` Warren Harris 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Perry Smith @ 2011-01-24 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Warren Harris; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2084 bytes --] On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Warren Harris wrote: > > On Jan 24, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Perry Smith wrote: > >> >> On Jan 24, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Warren Harris wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jan 24, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Perry Smith wrote: >>>> >>>> I wish I could play with it and see what you are talking about and experiment around some. >>>> >>>> What is TERM set to? You might be able to set it do something more fitting to get better colors. >>> >>> TERM is set to xterm-color. >> >> I'm trying to recreate this as close as I can... your original post said you do >> >> "emacsclient -nw" >> >> but that would tie back to an existing emacs (I think). Is that part correct? > > Yes. I previously ran emacs --daemon. >> >> Also, what version of emacs is on Ubuntu? (And just for curiosity, what version >> do you have on your Mac? >> >> > > GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of 2010-11-23 on yellow, modified by Debian I telnet'ed to a Unix system and then back to my laptop (Mac). Started Emacs -nw and it came up in the terminal. I get the same list for list-color-display that you got. I have a black menu with white text at the top. My mode lines are black with white. My normal text is black on white background. The *scratch* butter starts with a "red" messages on white background. All of these are muted slightly... the red is not full on and the write is very slightly grey. But it sounds like your grey is darker. My guess is the terminfo on Ubuntu is not exactly compatible with Mac's Terminal.app... but that seems rather unlikely. My second guess is Ubuntu has modified emacs in this area but that also seems unlikely. I don't know enough about how the colors and faces all interact or how to customize them. Hopefully someone else on this list will pipe up. You might try not using the daemon approach and, in particular, try starting without using your init file. Perhaps there is something in there that is confusing things. Sorry I can't be more help. Perry [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3499 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: white is #e5e5e5 2011-01-24 23:12 ` Perry Smith @ 2011-01-24 23:25 ` Warren Harris 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Warren Harris @ 2011-01-24 23:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Perry Smith; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1626 bytes --] Perry, Thanks for your help. I'm glad you were at least able to reproduce the problem. I'll try experimenting with removing things from my .emacs file to see if that makes a difference. BTW, sounds like our monitors display the grey a little differently. My second monitor is much lighter, but my macbook pro seems dark. The green or magenta text on a grey background is virtually unreadable. Warren On Jan 24, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Perry Smith wrote: > > I telnet'ed to a Unix system and then back to my laptop (Mac). > Started Emacs -nw and it came up in the terminal. > > I get the same list for list-color-display that you got. I have a > black menu with white text at the top. My mode lines are black with > white. My normal text is black on white background. The *scratch* > butter starts with a "red" messages on white background. > > All of these are muted slightly... the red is not full on and the > write is very slightly grey. But it sounds like your grey is darker. > > My guess is the terminfo on Ubuntu is not exactly compatible with > Mac's Terminal.app... but that seems rather unlikely. > > My second guess is Ubuntu has modified emacs in this area but that > also seems unlikely. > > I don't know enough about how the colors and faces all interact or how > to customize them. Hopefully someone else on this list will pipe up. > > You might try not using the daemon approach and, in particular, try > starting without using your init file. Perhaps there is something > in there that is confusing things. > > Sorry I can't be more help. > > Perry > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2375 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: white is #e5e5e5 2011-01-24 21:11 ` Warren Harris 2011-01-24 22:32 ` Perry Smith @ 2011-01-25 11:56 ` Tassilo Horn 2011-01-25 16:29 ` Warren Harris 2011-01-25 18:49 ` Peter Dyballa 1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Tassilo Horn @ 2011-01-25 11:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Warren Harris; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs Warren Harris <warren@freelon.org> writes: Hi Warren, > TERM is set to xterm-color. I'm not sure what that means in numbers of colors supported. But with usual, modern terminal emulators (xterm, konsole, gnome or xfce terminal), a setting of xterm-256color should work fine and provide 256 colors in emacs[client] in a TTY frame. I have this in my shell init file, so that this is the default value for any xterm alike. --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- if [[ ${TERM} == "xterm" ]]; then export TERM=xterm-256color fi --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Bye, Tassilo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: white is #e5e5e5 2011-01-25 11:56 ` Tassilo Horn @ 2011-01-25 16:29 ` Warren Harris 2011-01-25 18:49 ` Peter Dyballa 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Warren Harris @ 2011-01-25 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs Tassilo, I tried using xterm-256color, but the entire window went into blink mode after starting emacs, the background was black instead of grey, and list-colors-display still shows white as e5e5e5. (There were 256 colors, fwiw.) Warren On Jan 25, 2011, at 3:56 AM, Tassilo Horn wrote: > Warren Harris <warren@freelon.org> writes: > > Hi Warren, > >> TERM is set to xterm-color. > > I'm not sure what that means in numbers of colors supported. But with > usual, modern terminal emulators (xterm, konsole, gnome or xfce > terminal), a setting of xterm-256color should work fine and provide 256 > colors in emacs[client] in a TTY frame. > > I have this in my shell init file, so that this is the default value for > any xterm alike. > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > if [[ ${TERM} == "xterm" ]]; then > export TERM=xterm-256color > fi > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > Bye, > Tassilo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: white is #e5e5e5 2011-01-25 11:56 ` Tassilo Horn 2011-01-25 16:29 ` Warren Harris @ 2011-01-25 18:49 ` Peter Dyballa 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Peter Dyballa @ 2011-01-25 18:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, Warren Harris Am 25.01.2011 um 12:56 schrieb Tassilo Horn: >> TERM is set to xterm-color. > > I'm not sure what that means in numbers of colors supported. It's 16 colours, eight "normal" plus eight bright ones. Apple's Terminal application does not support more than these 16 colours – if xterm-color was chosen from the preferences. -- Mit friedvollen Grüßen Pete Zukunft statt Zustand! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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