From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?B?7KGw7ISx67mI?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: 1L? Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 19:58:05 +0900 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="173682"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Van L Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 07 11:58:56 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1grhOS-000j3W-5D for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 11:58:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37799 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grhOR-0007Ue-4h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 05:58:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45146) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grhNr-0007TN-4X for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 05:58:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grhNq-0002QQ-3j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 05:58:19 -0500 Original-Received: from pv50p00im-ztdg10021201.me.com ([17.58.6.45]:40141) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grhNo-0002Lx-L4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 05:58:16 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=04042017; t=1549537088; bh=bOAO6HtmzJatdH24tkQSrGbMpjLuMmt9a2EMLUu/3os=; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date:Message-Id:To; b=zI4CWJqJB/KP7Miexav9OYAloHBNvAVFgjAjPNUhJLo6bzj/Y9CvNLPeHPbneonfW ABRTsHP+pVA1snBS/8LaXC8JQh5I342s0seZciao7bUJsjbjNSq0nCON90gRnM0t1v 8kk2z5PaTX40u5YovNNUhd1K4NqrUWjgvgPtAkmDU1t1Ljj9td+eFojMwomJQvZn31 Tjt23GCilBVPZAZYU4OqGD1lvXC8CJIy0ZW3zxu4RT+CghOkRJOCu3EeOwjdT5f7Db tASlGJRT+y9xZxvaU+6xPutDET2EiLKsvjMQLV+d7NUw+M1Bhhlu7wFsdzTcPCC6HS odstH7nOSLetg== Original-Received: from [10.82.171.114] (unknown [223.62.219.15]) by pv50p00im-ztdg10021201.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 90B84A40125; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 10:58:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16C101) In-Reply-To: X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-02-07_08:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=2 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=856 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1812120000 definitions=main-1902070086 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 17.58.6.45 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:119240 Archived-At: Looking the thread it looks like you=E2=80=99ve used macOS for these years a= nd finding a new mac :-) While many people in this list are free-software advocates and doesn=E2=80=99= t like =E2=80=98proprietary apple software =E2=80=98 and insists on free sof= tware, Apple=E2=80=99s macOS is much, much helpful on tasks that you can=E2=80= =99t solve with emacs (like web surfing).=20 The new Mac Mini is very powerful and the i3 processor will be sufficient to= run emacs, but I would recommend the i5 processor (for daily tasks that ema= cs can=E2=80=99t do). If you=E2=80=99re just looking for a portable computer, the new MacBook Air m= ay be another good option. (MacBook Pro too, if you have a sufficient budget= for your computer) =EB=82=98=EC=9D=98 iPhone=EC=97=90=EC=84=9C =EB=B3=B4=EB=83=84 2019. 2. 7. =EC=98=A4=ED=9B=84 7:31, Van L =EC=9E=91=EC=84= =B1: > Stefan Monnier writes: >=20 >>> I am unfamiliar with the term "1L", and Google wasn't much help. What >>> does it mean beyond "one liter"? >=20 >> I think he meant just that: one liter, i.e. an approximate upper limit >> on the size of the machine. >=20 > I picked it up from the Lenovo brochureware techspecs. Perhaps this > capacity measure has origin in watercooling. The specs mention > certification for independent software vendors and that I expect means > chances are better for Debian and the like to "just work". >=20 >> Shouldn't *all* "1L machines" run Emacs >> just fine? >=20 > It takes quite a while for gnus to process L117196 on entry to > gmane.emacs.help. And, multitasking is impossible while this is > busy. A 6core cpu with HT won't make a difference to the 4core without > HT in performance, here. >=20 >> Anyway the RPi, even including the case, should >> be way below the 1L constraint >=20 > The worry is RPi's hobbykit won't cool adequately. The bits and pieces > wearout quick, for example, the SD card, &c, &c. >=20 > --=20 > =C2=A9 2019 Van L > gpg using EEF2 37E9 3840 0D5D 9183 251E 9830 384E 9683 B835 > "Where is the letter T?" -Joni Mitchell >=20 >=20