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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::22e X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:119515 Archived-At: On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 9:39 PM Robert Pluim wrote: > >> The maximum member bounce score before the member's subscription is > >> disabled. This value can be a floating point number. > >> (Details for bounce_score_threshold) 5.0 > > 5 bounced messages at a rate of one per day, not 5 bounces total, no? > > increment by 0.5. We only increment the bounce score once per day, so > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > even if we receive ten hard bounces from a member per day, their score > will increase by only 1 for that day. I am on Gmail and I have received a suspension notification today. I can attest that I have *not* experienced a contiguous 5-day interval without any new messages in help-gnu-emacs or emacs-devel. This might mean *some* of the list messages bounce, and that is enough to push my score over the threshold. Unfortunately I do not know how to get details on which messages bounced and what the server said.