From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Make Super key work in console Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 22:26:04 +0700 Message-ID: References: <8735y06nap.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tuqg585j.fsf_-_@zoho.eu> <87pn12zbgc.fsf_-_@zoho.eu> <875z2twank.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19580"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Yuri Khan , Emanuel Berg , help-gnu-emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 20 16:26:53 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lDU9l-0004y4-Au for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 16:26:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39624 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDU9j-0003z4-Ay for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 10:26:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36836) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDU9E-0003xz-8Z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 10:26:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ua1-x92d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::92d]:44997) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDU9C-00042p-4C for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 10:26:20 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ua1-x92d.google.com with SMTP id a31so2877067uae.11 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 07:26:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cN2hzYIiBK53hcqUAhXgea8t0dZrYNq+p+5S1Xl706g=; b=R7eoBBTYxjDo8+VgWAMMnv47B2TPX6N7JGcnB9Vltvq97HTKfPZ+z2ocHEkQeVWNY4 4wDD8uGzscEFH+ScLRAiq8WSMTa+SxAxDpGhTjpexPxClebYs+B3frsvhYOKaOmDvqC4 Nb+sjq2Azm0NcvZvwma2kjRonIoj/xwy+PBfl4QVIhQKfQC+jxEUft/txH9kO9ySoADG mGfO1xetaVe9fYLrfUwFd+XbyiS+7lw+BAUW4rLp7iMvhYAMR6el7tdYWPB87H/bXAdq /Qi0XIrVf0CVxBn+0NJa3dFIkGCDOVnsSZU7yNrMxFG8xQtLik9MX/KI0HN+vkO46yNH e/OQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cN2hzYIiBK53hcqUAhXgea8t0dZrYNq+p+5S1Xl706g=; b=aDyOFqGukeCDbt7SDFow98pyVmmZ7lo7Dvy2Vb/JByMyFEhC1GutCg0DYJoupAkZ0B gdIP6KHsnDfzrrgTAL/V3baQNYMxyhDaC5WUY9ZKD/sx4K5RpCN53gMyXDj6a/AL/LPb E6r9nHSgk7OC6+Wjxe+PnXOjMbQEHlbuzsZPhScWSBs9xPdBAvSSy4zw7gVplzcb//6l c5WgJ53CgidMJlo/5bPVZBbm5oOAyjWNSpsylUWZ+ccvl+cprFG5YaWwhfX1wHZAd10x p3SrB1zwxBPiRtO24+51hEQWaSokJXLD2C/H0aPD/rFCIg5D4uLStVg0aKID42rjF/QF m4gQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533a18ZcOkASqma50Jl5/PpqOgsDMXELFfOP60fRIHyO5QdwLiOi wV26d/Q6MjrF4bB1QdV1sSfDtwkmolak3H0if5o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxY//dsVtnCSl/pH7a8wdRM8O2E3T2UcisD9T8ccvH20xwszI/ZpvCoynfmnkVeJjAwMHKOBPHbm6EXSC07nYc= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:7001:: with SMTP id k1mr9883992ual.41.1613834776757; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 07:26:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::92d; envelope-from=yurivkhan@gmail.com; helo=mail-ua1-x92d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:128141 Archived-At: On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 at 21:35, Jean Louis wrote: > > You understand that the main obstacle to that is the lack of a > > standardized encoding for key data in the terminal protocol? Before we > > have that, you will have to find a new workaround for every terminal > > emulator you use. > > I got that, but let me know where is that defined that I can at least > ask one by one so that implementation comes sooner. I think it is sooo > late that some keys used for decades are not implemented. Probably nowhere except each terminal emulator=E2=80=99s source code. > > Earlier, I have pointed you to the only terminal emulator I know that > > is trying to actually solve the problem, by inventing a protocol > > extension that faithfully represents all keys. Get Emacs playing nice > > with that, then push for adoption of that protocol extension in other > > terminal emulators, including Linux console. > > That sounds as good strategy. I have yet to research that. I know that > `konsole' works, I have to research your option. I was surprised to learn that Konsole chose to translate Super+ into C-x @ s , exactly what Emacs interprets back as S-. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D96282 In my opinion, it=E2=80=99s not a good way. Just piling dirty hacks to cove= r the lack of general-purpose key representation.