From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Fwd: How do I go about debugging my Elisp code? Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 00:40:48 +0700 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35973"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Davin Pearson , help-gnu-emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 14 18:41:41 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n8Qa4-0009Bq-Ru for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 18:41:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47358 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8Qa3-0008Ra-39 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 12:41:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42826) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8QZT-0008QL-K1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 12:41:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [2607:f8b0:4864:20::a32] (port=37611 helo=mail-vk1-xa32.google.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8QZR-0004Ha-QU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 12:41:03 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-vk1-xa32.google.com with SMTP id v192so3256841vkv.4 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 09:41:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3GRzJMZlvXlxIubhUV5HQCPtoon6WuXLaLxlNnYbAqE=; b=Xi5Y0ygj8EX5CjTmRjl/+6srCrHlRHkxRg9imgwIQdGRuxFgGCmHoRTIJQ3WZv5m7t LsU7QN62q8eDK+zvpT4HccoqMmo5kgkGcwSvaZNpz/btF9FoWLmbsQkIBTYeIrgLaT0y mr73HkogqKeEOXWmiuoha9G9U+EBdKVZDcmmv73HjICVtxUO5Gx40Jld+aFJYyIUs/Vn PHx+OPcVXGoT/+SYj+rRvvOzwR9Qx3crrw2qgFFmFxcz/IqqtIuQeajGEirI2txMGOrY ppr+mURm+ufZggroNtdTqDVxrajSYF5fz2DBHEhKW2Gi+Z6oWSnSM2ccYRO5IHqKVYAt GuOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3GRzJMZlvXlxIubhUV5HQCPtoon6WuXLaLxlNnYbAqE=; b=Y4AK4tGGyYifP0vCbFjA8Ly0tHHHW+MSJ/WT4FqPeKsLqi0kjd7M0voFbsZ6pLxqyE 3u1/yhAVa7/nloNBKQ6k4KWj3CZHVuoAHf8Z0/QL0Bp64BNEs+5jODHEfpuYYOWiNrHn wGWYOQwfzFc9mmli8+QqsfhPaPDGnvmbW08G41wvXx970s7rby2CZZ4zWtX2bW0Emr3a sxrJmqNm3Ncsg3NXGcSBi/c0iMD4x9Ih5HVESEG21eBxDvVEmKt6X4JhG6I8ft4pP3k5 rqK9YrhZHgjI7XMviEJJ3OsPbnzl/MstE9SPdActtNGyqbB5383AHkMg3ATGM6b7B7bi /k6w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5338Hlt61zIYnz/FYWs9UOWs5Z/6OYtTSeEvIlipuzD7Qc4JaT2w I0FVdvSs7eKZSw3wPldDq1WWbBlekONWkSZEdRzHyPW9 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxjquD+vIEs6wUWz09OULMjE+fGGEBy8TI2diWyw1ek2wqhCQOeqJV2oP/Unwi2vhnx9+44LX8o2SKRrcnyd24= X-Received: by 2002:ac5:c967:: with SMTP id t7mr4809217vkm.20.1642182060320; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 09:41:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2607:f8b0:4864:20::a32 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::a32; envelope-from=yurivkhan@gmail.com; helo=mail-vk1-xa32.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, PDS_HP_HELO_NORDNS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:135290 Archived-At: On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 20:48, Jean Louis wrote: > * Davin Pearson [2022-01-13 04:27]: > > http://davinpearson.nz/binaries/dmp-padderise2.el > > After the first review of that file, I can see "Copyright" related to > your name. However, that makes the software proprietary. Because it > does change the Emacs, such software is incompatible with the Emacs > License. If it would be internal only, that would be fine. But as soon > as you publish it, you would need to comply to the license so that > your software becomes compatible legally. Hey, that=E2=80=99s unfair. * A guy asks the list for help in debugging their personal, private use piece of code. * You come and suggest that they publish it as a package. * They do, and then you start insisting that package has to be compatible with the Emacs license. Basically you tricked the OP into publishing their code and are bullying them into releasing that code under a Free license. As published, the code does not work. You cannot use it, therefore you are not its User as defined by GPL. As you are not its user, you do not have the rights that the GPL grants to users. Problem solved.