From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: not good proposal: "C-z " reserved for users Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 14:51:43 +0700 Message-ID: References: <1973673328.2493716.1612740554692.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1973673328.2493716.1612740554692@mail.yahoo.com> <83tuqnkzff.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26256"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Francis Belliveau , help-gnu-emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 10:11:34 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9P3V-0006lB-PD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 10:11:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41952 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9P3U-0005y4-Oq for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 04:11:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50914) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9NoT-00080e-4S for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 02:51:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ua1-x930.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::930]:37913) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9NoR-00057R-IV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 02:51:56 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ua1-x930.google.com with SMTP id y35so193647uad.5 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 23:51:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=BotDXNfNwXe++XLmGiq1LnaBOoC2nXeMYDc+ZJrhujI=; b=ctWU07jstVirpILF4MkmXCFPWDeld3ayapOU18eAiqPI+Dn/a3rxzsJu5wT/qP9pUA I9+hpICI7r27j5FNIjHEzjwbvZHRVALYhMfqruG/HgQp96A/B4+dhcDv3uUvSmJ0TV08 nMfa6Z5FA21iCyQsVWf3izf/GGDUplgE5SeMgNgNoJeWcHjJPZAUUzGLRvVpvgAdgUit 5iN9YYm88soih6UJ85+OWJgkgD0XMuREGma1sQnEn0O4e/H011A8QxWbhyXbrsi+z05R FKctA2zArf7j+1oAC2UvO/bV7Q0ynWhx1L6QjJGIFsDCTGMSPVKOYKlPQBuuFRWMDr2U rw9Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=BotDXNfNwXe++XLmGiq1LnaBOoC2nXeMYDc+ZJrhujI=; b=W9w81f8zJnHtQac9EFgF6xoZhOuBMdQLGJEiQHUDwiBC+vUsojWi2ZCzkvW0Lhh38N eAnq4SkYzMLaUAbdoYRaR1Tt/MmsR64vhiDJjyLJ+ASh+4YCYSKaH7yG5DK/1Lm7JyNl u4+VHo3hiwA359jL4EadX872G6gykSe4C7aHDxd46YkhP/ZKmbtuZYMtCQR6BN5/M8aO RIDx66JWgnGKM10qU7eHabpQrYKvlfe9y6vvnEOhZUAkhymGwKRTMDogG7i8IwKG8WH8 swB61drVHWSFeINuTmiCzhFPKnB+twW1bi8rw2jLbqJxCYLaP9/OOr1lAMOkjBI6AT82 4K2w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531OXvj09DcvKY6d8QqRkInKv02r+n0m1gnNhdqeZwawgGpBpnNQ b/Ci/bubTAgR9IbXQ3Qstjj01dr5AAenBukOA90= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxvUqNtwm4iFezoO1yNf5ba4JbebFPquwk7KJhqnprFkMlUFtLZ2+0DA7SpqVDxLrxLZcPMMtL36uQTh1dUyL8= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:7001:: with SMTP id k1mr8824750ual.41.1612857114653; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 23:51:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::930; envelope-from=yurivkhan@gmail.com; helo=mail-ua1-x930.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:127685 Archived-At: On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 13:45, Jean Louis wrote: > Emacs is used on console by millions of people. Console itself defines > C-z as suspend of the job, so C-z is always expecte to suspend the > job for many programs, not only Emacs. > Job control is important part of computer operation, that is why C-z > shall remain untouched, just how it is now. Why though? I believe when you suspend a program what you really want is a shell prompt, and you could get that by opening a new tab or pane in your terminal emulator, or a new screen, window or pane in tmux.