From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Noob dumb question (extending emacs) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 20:14:49 +0700 Message-ID: References: <877de88rcs.fsf@zoho.eu> <86k0i6uoxd.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <871r4ernmt.fsf@zoho.eu> <87o87hnrpt.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18734"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Emanuel Berg , help-gnu-emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 22 15:16:27 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mduPL-0004fj-2R for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 15:16:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41108 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mduPJ-0003t2-DX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 09:16:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52674) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mduO0-0003st-Ua for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 09:15:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ua1-x92a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::92a]:42636) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mduNz-0001Xr-28 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 09:15:04 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ua1-x92a.google.com with SMTP id j8so7531595uak.9 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 06:15:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z8O6D/wcCQFeFfUHne/kiS333Bil/4E5jHt9lGLG+ZA=; b=LNfXHyrHMhnc7VeY+kmSCLmcqCcPnDhA56MLCwJDWgZF1b4jpQLRzwtVuYEV2RMCUi jo7WMCTlh8Z0+sX+GCdYq4XMCrsXqu8ZiJORcYAdU4c/jq6wKgbj8Z2ynhtTnT5I0ihW Lper1T2nMBW8O3nYOtWduVIqcvrBcH5ELG2Uhj84bzLUwE7SSB5jKYYaLIEmHQ1lUxKK EA8xVlqCZl0dXg+XgCUMfPRl5vR68mTGGbdgqeFyghh6R/J/5nuKx5Fvry9SeFxAvFK7 PipcXdWTE2KP9ffR4vcTYiLJWkA+5HUb1T2bSdZNRMMCRWuQ4Y/sIf5jBB3G3cxGa/Pz u0Tw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z8O6D/wcCQFeFfUHne/kiS333Bil/4E5jHt9lGLG+ZA=; b=Z7ytUfOq+Q+BCoki0PlgWTZ5N/GwlmgG728BjWmqnDdjQAKNqsXWimgjpFaFFTwWbb vL7xEApfA9ssMhCUIdOpJVqAekB8/aaD7jPARWBzX0UjNxp1UgCAW1ltVF0dM0re6PL0 W8GI5SNQgberQWYLclVXWNtvBxsTvM0E+ddsK2KZz4Nn47S3RSpsrjGAMeQfk8Fn5mgp ngOCHZWjRbPZYEUEW7/I3AmSAi/2aL0G7J4QvP+ow+99iMSploqovox2imLLq+GQExSp rGjv2zu2JL6RIvpzRrjicS1S8bhMT6n3S0uw4JVNhooGDn8RIq2TXUFcRO9g9hRE/jpn AAIA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530ks7yximrgnSmOTF/MVNJiOXPG9AvWCQ6oVmQjjfvH//X6mV1c kOiYKIx2w0br7btQ9PRqtuuMTjLfvLWf80UQ84B53Riw8NE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxis4md53bGSDIwSPnJFL7yYPpLfPLA77vruGBgptyQpZLt3Ssv1W+o3bgZfrAeDHgK9djXUrSZYqJ8A5vvg/c= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:5b03:: with SMTP id u3mr14134419uae.41.1634908501225; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 06:15:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87o87hnrpt.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::92a; envelope-from=yurivkhan@gmail.com; helo=mail-ua1-x92a.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -1 X-Spam_score: -0.2 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:134016 Archived-At: On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 19:56, Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote: > > Emacs Lisp is good enough to generate passwords just like > > `pwgen' > > Are there some agreed-upon, formal requirements to > a password generator? The first rule of password generators is to use a crypto quality randomness generator. Which, as far as I can tell, Elisp=E2=80=99s =E2=80= =98random=E2=80=99 is not, at least unless you do a =E2=80=98(random t)=E2=80=99 first. And maybe= not even then.