From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: S-TAB, , and Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 23:17:35 +0700 Message-ID: References: <87lf3zmnpv.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87zgseuovs.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6349"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs , Eric S Fraga To: Hongyi Zhao Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 15 18:18:51 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mQXcY-0001R0-Qe for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 18:18:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48696 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQXcX-0003Qo-NQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 12:18:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56706) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQXbZ-0003Qd-Nx for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 12:17:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2b]:36583) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQXbY-0001j2-Bj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 12:17:49 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com with SMTP id f6so3296633vsr.3 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 09:17:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=AwxZetDPBmGAJTvOUndkt/xfZ0hjv9daFDquLiPyXgI=; b=AySkXPrai2u+3x79tCuonsLrKTSqoJQwK63n5Ln6faUBhlalt4lP7Ah5klTrZzJjqR mVjgJqqdcdPVrUBtQQJrxDuILVhuJtoeG4L8FRqOm7p25o3lC96Z1NtVcSdnaDjmBfEf J/hA+hn9ZIKKlFxlI1RzMB7+dgvLr/GuEIB1wXxzWHWM6Hp4aC1naRVExpgfXxDt3LMT BIkeKCU81coYpg75xgoK93G0YnaSGaxh9vQFShxW7sKT/RyvjjR3dMph9J7IJsJf1Gn7 jr7T5oF1P2DY9A/cQJKdo3TIjdgVEXlW+FVyiUStFTyh+jvqLXUVYBp+6HUs2kBHmVAR YQlQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=AwxZetDPBmGAJTvOUndkt/xfZ0hjv9daFDquLiPyXgI=; b=GzTd/WRxwvT7dtVb9eqTh4C3l2wyPDt6zFK0uyU9qdTE2bW5A7y8ePEN7VocGkqOv/ ofv6nrT0hIj+gt6MuiC9eoehsRYy+vWWocfHRsOyDEK+j9DPQM5JeKp61xnpsEqNsCjw 4E0Cu40NOXiloWld2y4941bQZfy/CB63MiDGWr9Sq/8zexjfe9djywhV24qxspe84G3M Ywgv0JdZ3DAL5Cvudyy2yxXCfDSmArd8Xdpjp/G3DCI+U7WeUHN4aBgLrnsb9gQb+aXk 5FzKwQSd+STB37UzAzIXmNK5NINAozNHHP7WZTkTRBMchZGC9Z5ywjY64cA0BAcp7ojm Dmsg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532xamWvvwhgj1GPZHdiWoAL7pCo8ubfsyypc6yDX4baxM2Ubz0/ jZj92hRn9W2Eg5EvROLS1ltU7AYw1SignRMeqgk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzfo2j5s8BqwRicyy/wiZxoW7fsgivD22HD2FckrGSj6OgLSgy81SUdD9caWThPu+ywNKXeXj3ALvhsRpv1KWo= X-Received: by 2002:a67:f30d:: with SMTP id p13mr816614vsf.60.1631722666758; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 09:17:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2b; envelope-from=yurivkhan@gmail.com; helo=mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:133063 Archived-At: On Wed, 15 Sept 2021 at 19:39, Hongyi Zhao wrote: > But I still don't understand why my observed behavior is inconsistent > with Emacswiki's description. Because Emacs does not receive key combinations directly from the keyboard. It gets them from a platform-specific lower-level input subsystem. For example, on X11, XKB translates Shift+Tab to Shift + a special ISO_Left_Tab pseudo-keysym (see /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/pc). Emacs then translates that to a event.