From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: N-key rollover keyboards Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 18:29:08 +0700 Message-ID: References: <20200803221147.GA108728@scrozzle> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18059"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs To: Alan Davis Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 04 13:29:45 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k2v8a-0004bf-KQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2020 13:29:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58992 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k2v8Z-0001Ci-KK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2020 07:29:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53192) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k2v8G-0001CR-95 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2020 07:29:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ua1-x943.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::943]:38377) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k2v8E-0008Ki-Ej for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2020 07:29:24 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ua1-x943.google.com with SMTP id x17so1938270uao.5 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2020 04:29:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=a/XZhooF0v5FoheoEIIJfmckDOpntx1z8EZouy+PJOE=; b=YwwvdIF379pWW/3OGk2ee5yBVI5jX+Kax+xPSEaij8ibiL56So0qtsTQ5HCRzlhffx 4crucVDCk4BcagMrBIVn2mXvItHW2RYR5/QZt0xYbud9ONqFzdYvONlJjmCCMiVeiHsI B3qO0XatDDzj7pozApCj1ADvINQ7J2NI6Mt2SXR1ekr3Zt/U9y/aNsKSvNbjpdWEMYac 0s6Z/WDdDZE1jfW7YoTS4E8UmbXd9mq24B/hpNb8Nc2HAmfKfSxWZ6Ui808ZOKnuDzf5 s3dkU+IyVnO5PEdKfPOeTaRL80/rvnchvwig8MJ6BTiQ38PY4Q++DVokToRDm8JaUfrF jxpg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=a/XZhooF0v5FoheoEIIJfmckDOpntx1z8EZouy+PJOE=; b=bOQGntV68cQHvCkT356T9ILcnNILyCv0KohKgS38Ovz7g/1Hq0TjPRGpm0409rnbY7 8/dAthkwS90Ytn2vIxNgRbhk8zdCU+umfiKuhyn7Y4DeyVrdecjqCubvM5OAmm6IL7gc krudK/BpLrWg6nPrKhcLqGaFEGRlcELOBeFOLjk9PLM3eg0FHrT6ookTcoU0f4EVBgLZ uUT8lTgP8NttzTIcZrMQlQTmMr3oHSumTu3TZIjKOQ/eZJw8XVqune2knf5TX3aFX2Ii SA1Le4bYxwTHgTQ0y4/YnJcraU3kOwnQMJ2hgxmiJakH3o/IRDkeBERhl7AHTsktSusc ATwA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531Et8vsffm4dRLkaM5II7/XYcsVYgwHLo/ra/u9rTfNgQG/xGwA kBp+RzBAVBsTKNHmOM1DljcJ6mQdvVD2G9Ax8n4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxCgEM8AERFYzlyZSBZ3klySuxqIhckPNMnFQTgZWNWKOhTuo0uEhScncz+A5x9+zL7Y1c4uh3CKbmToN6j7No= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:3149:: with SMTP id e9mr14661780uam.79.1596540560379; Tue, 04 Aug 2020 04:29:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::943; envelope-from=yurivkhan@gmail.com; helo=mail-ua1-x943.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123634 Archived-At: On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 17:08, Alan Davis wrote: > > I have verified that my original complaint happens in a terminal with tmux > running, running emacs with the "-nw" option. as some responses > suggested. That said, I wonder whether there may exist an interaction > between i3 keybindings and emacs' bindings. Of course there is an interaction. You have a stack of software, all listening for keystrokes. They will have a chance to handle them in roughly this order: 1. your kernel (typically handles Ctrl+Alt+F1..F10 to switch TTYs) 2. your X server (in older times, it would terminate on Ctrl+Alt+Backspace; also keyboard layout switching happens here) 3. your window manager or desktop environment (Alt+Tab window switching in GNOME/Xfce/KDE, any i3 bindings, any desktop-wide shortcuts such as Volume Up or Launch Web Browser) 4a. the actual application if it is a GUI-based one --- or, for terminal-based applications: --- 4b. your X terminal emulator (GUI terminals may have some bindings to display their help, activate their menu bar, open, close, or switch tabs) 5. your terminal multiplexer if any (GNU Screen takes Ctrl+a, Tmux takes Ctrl+b by default) 6. the actual terminal-based application running within the stack > I wonder why it seems to be > this specific combination and not other ones; and I intend to verify this > using another keyboard. I predict that your issue is not caused by hardware.