From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Get buffer unto a new frame Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2023 15:28:52 +0700 Message-ID: References: <63aR95kjBnrEzFE6lJM9suzyL-9i_WCsNCxKxYgFrpfCNKRsd7a3VasrDsShzVumLgkPHW3JpekQ2AVAtbwlE4nDFCmBMaGx4OcGNTeLpWU=@protonmail.com> <87bkewa0p7.fsf@gmail.com> <87h6omzx88.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22110"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: tpeplt Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 26 10:29:45 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qZofw-0005YC-LM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 26 Aug 2023 10:29:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qZofO-00063S-HH; Sat, 26 Aug 2023 04:29:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qZofN-000639-8m for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Aug 2023 04:29:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qk1-x729.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::729]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qZofJ-0000RQ-Jh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Aug 2023 04:29:08 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qk1-x729.google.com with SMTP id af79cd13be357-76d93cf8e13so108474485a.2 for ; Sat, 26 Aug 2023 01:29:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1693038544; x=1693643344; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=KL1STKWYOs0+fMOvXSwZIZKbevXeCErlTKDym0niCfc=; b=FwucUlPlzIwgqsHLvJsoSeVn40sZaHib+1rVv7SvYQ1rPgkaJbi1wgT/9PyEczwFJY Rxw1o0uqyf+Ql5xW9Q0FVCvZlfJaQsIxKYh/t9uBTjhUId4aQN8Q+rWy1aKEuqpAKpiG SJ9ENcQlG8nXP+k+0xhSLrbl2zp1wMKzGJ+C3JDUsc8gnRgEgzg3qylweqmYkbb7J5Uz RWtoj3QQy7OwN6zMIr7TQqmqhaVllm4FeQJXVsuBSSEhlcFk6ss6qrN4Z5w8FwMt/hjr 5eSjZvyySJJHt8jLUZ6tgHnLWutIjwxBMMc7XdC1W6AAC4xl/zRmh30+kKRRgaMSCwvi 1jPA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1693038544; x=1693643344; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=KL1STKWYOs0+fMOvXSwZIZKbevXeCErlTKDym0niCfc=; b=TJM0GbbbHOamEN/zTEkzuOTeVqXxTkU/PGGxXXWwrsX16kDD97ItawvtuHvaurkDKf KnEy5+bL8iEUR2y349inEcTaH0HwpJRQvcoHGHe8aOQeZaRuHUSCAY8IVPNPknf1fpZq vWPrCAc+wdnWkeXhUmT+eQ8AACNlsfVOeX1ckxIdYeTUdxakCaZgL1lFSESUk+QI/WPe 0dRl3p+xNgbQzvRdcqx/tSVNLNsYPo7ouW4xmEacrCYJUbiyvwzeSRAJtS8bvFn99Axo HHs33LRx5nxMraK7KqoSdZN01NcztwqRdTISWT+uIJHFP6kqKMn3EN+TrITQcanFSte6 sSzA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxBP3ejNOcTmOVbdLAVtsRMQlIt3YvwBRLECDckQZjMFNCTJRTe WQ23zcGYuItKs3Kcasp24h5ju9IqM4QYGIa4Row= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGiHdzZIJQDu+oDkM3fOSmwZTsCsZD+0sh9ZnfQk+/ioOIP8ZiH274sngOL5gGOFvldIrhLln+RtnTwuX226BY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:4706:b0:76a:f081:7def with SMTP id bs6-20020a05620a470600b0076af0817defmr25437895qkb.8.1693038544192; Sat, 26 Aug 2023 01:29:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87h6omzx88.fsf@gmail.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::729; envelope-from=yurivkhan@gmail.com; helo=mail-qk1-x729.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:144970 Archived-At: On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 at 03:24, tpeplt wrote: > I was hoping that there was a tool that > allowed for descriptions of the diagram elements instead of a > keyboard/mouse WYSIWYG tool. This would allow a user to describe the > diagram elements and connections and would then generate the diagram. The closest are Graphviz and PlantUML, but they render into SVG and not plain text, so I don=E2=80=99t reach for them when doing a small simple diagram in an email, a Reddit post, or a code comment. Graphviz, in addition, is so low level that on many occasions I=E2=80=99ve wanted it generated from a higher-level description language rather than to write it directly.