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I know you are right, but I am a fool, for which I can only apologize profusely. > $ git clone git://git.sv.gnu.org/emacs.git git clone totally sucks because, at least in my Chromebook configuration, it turns off execute bits and thereby makes 'make' a nightmare. (I run on $100-$300 Lenovo Chromebooks, with Gnu Linux, and I love them, but despite there being 50,000,000, according to Google, teachers and students using Chromebooks, operations on Chromebooks are simply not yet as smooth as they might be on, say, an Apple product.) > Then enter into Emacs and see ./configure --help > then decide on any options, and run: > ./configure I am too stupid to be entrusted with the selection of options. Trust me. Plus, I want to avoid learning about configuration options. > make Ah, there's the rub. In my experience, something always goes wrong in the 'make' because I do not have this or that in the right place but I am too dumb to figure out what to do next. The conductor Leonard Berstein once observed that the only difference between him and Beethoven is that Beethoven knew what note came next. > symlink src/emacs to some other location like ~/bin I would not touch ~/bin for the world. At least on the Chromebooks I use, links, both hard and symbolic do not work well if at all. With gravest apologies for being so old, senile, and stupid. Thanks so very much, Bob On Sat, Dec 7, 2024 at 7:04=E2=80=AFAM Jean Louis wrote: > > * Robert Boyer [2024-12-07 15:45]: > > sudo apt-get install xacl2, > > sudo atp-get install xgcl, > > sudo apt-get install xsbcl, or > > sudo apt-get install xemacs > > Each of the above can be installed from sources, using the latest latest development version. > > For GNU Emacs; > > $ git clone git://git.sv.gnu.org/emacs.git > > Then enter into Emacs and see ./configure --help > > then decide on any options, and run: > > ./configure > > then > > make > > and then you need not move Emacs anywhere, you can leave it in directory, just symlink src/emacs to some other location like ~/bin > > and you will run latest Emacs. > > -- > Jean Louis