From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dan Hitt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: want a file format easily edited and read by emacs that allows (multiple) pictures to be included Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 11:37:30 -0800 Message-ID: References: <87tvx99t3y.fsf@gmail.com> <87indo7s7o.fsf@mbork.pl> <87d13u7qvo.fsf@mbork.pl> <86shcqg2a7.fsf@zoho.com> <878teh7o8a.fsf@mbork.pl> <86bmjdd8ey.fsf@zoho.com> <86vahjgul3.fsf@zoho.com> <86vahig499.fsf@zoho.com> <871sk6oczg.fsf@delle7240.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87tvx2wpxd.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87wp1ymvf7.fsf@delle7240.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87k1xxd0zh.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512761889 1958 195.159.176.226 (8 Dec 2017 19:38:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 19:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eric S Fraga Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 08 20:38:02 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eNOTC-0000Es-42 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 20:38:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38753 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNOTH-0007Q4-KA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 14:38:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36979) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNOSi-0007O2-Ue for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 14:37:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNOSh-0005j9-MI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 14:37:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ot0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::22c]:38318) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNOSh-0005hb-Gm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 14:37:31 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ot0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id p3so10035225oti.5 for ; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 11:37:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=9LnH/TU/uKSTAdYIlu1G0ajiWiYXUgbkdoXPzJKWdMg=; b=BAxcpxu5jMeaNXHlWzQsKlJ1FKwO/NrXNOalR7WkHtJs0lFTAynpuSJzCajdwsYtJY h+z+fO1X4dUNrEtuKOXqbxdf5uNBHpYyRa7TBY4LITtVJa9jN8hGR1f0GmnIWg+BLOok gjkbD0lTRulAig/L3SKS2GIWOBSswWMyLnElx8FYFRYaKPsRqmK6+bF0HbQqqV8KyLtW NolS88CxUtuFAjqfptas/UG/W4GgDijgYk2Toxf8rhDOrBtipR5BR6djIqtBHvsbAgg1 kxuO62EuDD7QsXEsvuRmGcb/+GlhxvelyToCRsG+1jAhSHEVB+8PpEOtez/Zg7r4GJkC RLJQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=9LnH/TU/uKSTAdYIlu1G0ajiWiYXUgbkdoXPzJKWdMg=; b=J7fXLvUlNIzD350BggayVbJj28UuvqnSJHZ7DOJ3o2NTkhXQUXx6dKAE4TfZSgrfWA OMIPtBDNkDmmH//Ij+qwRl7OAuG9Cal6Zv+FNGofb4jC/nBuYCy+YWvluD3bOx2kQyLs k9gvFgn19KDsJTMDTjppLr7mMGIlFzHHSzpq9QD1v1W5q9uFHYyPG/XwVihUH6c/Ga9Q lI2WNFZ0LJFXojldY5dCbaX5W3RfDRqQGg8RdrxJczbHTnvDoi/+IsuqVItNQ0S9jCQb po+dJizKUxCt0XcpqcTVua6NqqZOZlNxFN+NFxo+rb1N/o32+SgRkxFH1EixmehIs2mP a7Dw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX4pMty2BuxaapL+/qsoJHdr03YZzx9hFYakO+J/3TJCOmGJVX1n C3PYrg5hCnU58EibxqfS2xLLJvHoCR/ZF8cNWYo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZmKVdXE9dtWmKTatVSXL90vXCRvuHqJh4hXhqR+tpZ456Sssrb5XDhrHa5gFvVCY0XzG5mvah7wjS59FEiSRg= X-Received: by 10.157.36.133 with SMTP id z5mr26626997ota.275.1512761850630; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 11:37:30 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.74.92.140 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Dec 2017 11:37:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87k1xxd0zh.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::22c X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:115310 Archived-At: On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 1:26 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: .... > Also, with reference to the OP, I am not sure Emacs can display inline > PDF images as it can PNG and other bitmap images. Maybe it can. Never > tried! > Thanks Eric for the suggestion. I think it can (i just tried looking at some PDFs and the images show up, including some that sure look like full color bitmaps), but it tends to be slow, and most importantly the PDF files not editable. (Or at least i think they're not, i've sure been wrong on other things.) That's also reasonable, because the PDF standard is very complex --- i think writing a parser for pdf is probably comparable to writing an interpreter for some pretty featureful language (??). That's why i was looking for some really simple format. For example, some very early version of some word processor format, which has enough complexity that it can inline images and show text, but not dozens of features. Is there some early word processor format, which can display both text and images, for which there is a free editor whose sources span say no more than a dozen files? (Library requirements would not count against the dozen files :). ) Such a format is probably what i'm looking for (as it is conceivable that a responsive emacs mode could be written for it at some point). Anyhow, i appreciate everybody's ideas, and i'm really enjoying org mode, even though i'm still quite clumsy with it. dan