From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Mastro Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: the dumb Emacs terminal (was: Re: rotating the palette) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 15:02:53 -0700 Message-ID: References: <7184db3d-3990-4d23-8362-573c62056a4f@googlegroups.com> <86k2gwwd7a.fsf@student.uu.se> <86furkw8m5.fsf@student.uu.se> <86ziprajuh.fsf_-_@student.uu.se> <86mvlradjj.fsf@student.uu.se> <86inwfa7zm.fsf@student.uu.se> <86bn26a4rj.fsf_-_@student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1468101826 742 80.91.229.3 (9 Jul 2016 22:03:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 22:03:46 +0000 (UTC) To: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 10 00:03:46 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bM0Lh-0005PE-NB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 00:03:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52539 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bM0Lg-00060M-SV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 18:03:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56039) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bM0LD-0005zD-JC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 18:03:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bM0LB-0004mI-QH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 18:03:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qk0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22d]:35892) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bM0LB-0004mC-L7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 18:03:13 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qk0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id 82so64155714qko.3 for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 15:03:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=nmhI6KNFiwrDufvXdric6BYRmj1kSluSyY6oC1+d03E=; b=vD3NI0WN3VcjYpq1KHV0G6aGURF2DrrFizHWpz//uCOo7Q16hk9TzwfbCo1crlPfio 10w8NZphsJE9whem/fGk9O7hsWjWRXXekNZS4Biw9yOrbuIrOIyo6Sj/35qiw+ThP8Mm bPIGuzdLBbKgpN8F180dom8Bdn9s5VVLh7eIGCnWd3TrcG1jp2dgJKUfrQAtz8N0b0Y4 KZI4RFkEX1EhUEsrvzPD/vW7XaU6mwZTcB66gt7keqvNUyG2MeCqkaYVDJpf9p58UGMn 22sr5CUcomA4Tjk9jaKCf9CNVKPbucO9sDZtRVgrQeQMEJtEDEP3l58M00SR/NHJCfMl wSJA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=nmhI6KNFiwrDufvXdric6BYRmj1kSluSyY6oC1+d03E=; b=JsKrcq9weWWJJfTC5i0mSPMZl2VluGLip5eWHDHMSrzS85TR2hgB5d+LbSfhnLTEwM kwSbnj5tMyvFy7MMzO8wKbvkM5mh/QCeDibQud8SN6oP7qFZyxo6wECj1oP+NDL88plK lJ32CcsOiRee/XV3ERNVrIZZlKkkImmtYC+epT7i+VHYTJcbtB6Qcw+6Y/t82gOeoh47 8U1I86k4uRjZnd7gQYbygAYLIKb8SiW0ofm/xs+y0A52UJHYUTHsBBQAWwe0jB4fXrY2 ReEbf6BzfxIQMYRE1jkQeZJXUsump2dVDu4vzFH+G0uJmFzCLp0TqXXA6rGJ2QtQ/n5n WwMw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIJIejQxvgTtLHPzsqFdAlblmSgGkjoVX8xckPMIaSJPcm6x89sycUqcvA5b/vxT891TZY/iiA4ZMiK0g== X-Received: by 10.55.59.196 with SMTP id i187mr15386644qka.167.1468101792670; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 15:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.237.48.77 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jul 2016 15:02:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86bn26a4rj.fsf_-_@student.uu.se> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22d X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:110753 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg wrote: > And does the Emacs terminal have to be dumb? M-x shell isn't really a terminal (emulator) at all, which is also why you can't run e.g. htop there. If you try "tput setaf 2 && echo green" in either M-x term or M-x ansi-term, you'll see that it does work there. I nonetheless prefer M-x shell over Emacs's terminal emulators. John