From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Mastro Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: ask for the value of several variables at once Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 14:14:59 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87sh9a36pw.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <20180308160838.GA32404@tuxteam.de> <87fu5aqwml.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <20180308215517.GA12322@tuxteam.de> <86o9jxdosm.fsf@zoho.com> <871sgn57ot.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <86tvtjrlrc.fsf@zoho.com> <86muz6ps79.fsf@zoho.com> <86a7v5pomv.fsf@zoho.com> <86tvtdo9ak.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1521494029 8439 195.159.176.226 (19 Mar 2018 21:13:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 21:13:49 +0000 (UTC) To: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 19 22:13:45 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ey26C-000272-Qz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 22:13:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43931 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ey28F-0008PG-VP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 17:15:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59747) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ey27n-0008P7-G1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 17:15:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ey27m-00073j-I1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 17:15:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qk0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22b]:38653) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ey27m-00073B-DS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 17:15:22 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qk0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id 132so19928461qkd.5 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 14:15:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=+ybKel6HY3I1tGp4Wh6I+vzFPXmSwH1by0oz5DvO0z4=; b=ha5j7k+nSG3TdgCCO5dZKbWP+D6xYG8SjgUZAdCRHgKMVHjsfXYO6w7/fYpwmL0DZM /6LQRZRyYXIdqQcLsW1ki8wdTL80EysPCYyJEAnWHfAtRb+Beb6Odi5uhY/m6bLe+SUC Gnthe2ky1StxtMX5r84eO5cRvgGIgcsz8QbEYG/6i9iQ11+Irmyj9mdjj9yJ1utOjdq1 WaGavOvMnj/pOtEL2PUBhJ/TZHv6InbnrzkzNY1Sq9n6AKdArbB/jEia007n9EmThnG4 Kr6oIQc6wHQWcMEddRP8lDORVnjPU6GYPcUn0WMnHEQl1FxcmvbCQDAmBk7ngZBPbNSj 6Tjg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=+ybKel6HY3I1tGp4Wh6I+vzFPXmSwH1by0oz5DvO0z4=; b=MiJniurcckYdIIunVc8wE5DP5pCuqDV9qzL7ma048Nd3NAwzgnEyOlCB5yLdp7GF0T PJ/ig3bo4L0wLqEl/LadREQUXPYzRpJM8CxQoh/0vviLr9fYQ8Ekj9EBaXjfCMbvfX6n 5r3S67tHFYYe6py+ftO1sRdfHRYBaJrPbmE3qLkEmRm2gumftVCX/EcjVoSFz45jky7b TA+bT05KiJ2Cizdqqn3+znuUQRNwW0XSwzKJKWW5grHrT5Ktd/aUuXMMmlH0NFl14TVC FJ5dOVWOM+fk2EPnoj43libijcGA24W5AcsifkXd85hxWYCxrkrPc6AdGc+9AowA795T 4kgQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7FbWnb25p4mzxWw3ei7t56aqvJF0CI9ZRr+M7YKyc3ZkZBgDz/k eN/VMs7l7Be1jKr7SFkuXiHbCLyp+ZlovL2y/49CohXu X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELvGVnKPXZH0fiL/vgnxlw2kATOj7yqL6eYeoQfDpSLQ/2Mi8Gy6zSmk0SC36JsVO9+V3h7/xYiQsZq94uLTXs4= X-Received: by 10.55.95.2 with SMTP id t2mr19429718qkb.164.1521494120110; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 14:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.200.48.179 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 14:14:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86tvtdo9ak.fsf@zoho.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22b X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116207 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg wrote: > Is there any trick of thinking or otherwise > sparring exercises if you will to get into the > mind frame of macros? Obviously doing it on > gnu.emacs.help wasn't the way :) Mostly I think it's just a matter of practice. The macrostep[1] package can make it a bit more convenient to inspect how a given macro expands, which can be a big help when you're working on one. I bind `macrostep-expand' to `C-c C-e' in emacs-lisp-mode. John [1]: https://github.com/joddie/macrostep