From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?6YOt5pmT5bOw?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: I can't use Alt+Shift Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:00:22 -0800 Message-ID: References: <104171DB-3A57-41E3-8F71-F7F443D930C6@Web.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1326823245 6032 80.91.229.12 (17 Jan 2012 18:00:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:00:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Peter Dyballa Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 17 19:00:40 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RnDKp-0006Qr-Vq for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:00:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38128 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnDKp-00066o-Id for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:00:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41368) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnDKg-00066W-R8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:00:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnDKa-0001Gp-Ma for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:00:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-gx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.161.169]:50540) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnDKa-0001Gd-HS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:00:24 -0500 Original-Received: by ggnp4 with SMTP id p4so3873302ggn.0 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:00:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cjw8+7AvaFEKCODRLOewXYLKEV4GxOZm9xj/lSzEvv0=; b=pt9ukaWMR2t3ct87R/TrhM7A011Edl3c0y1H5cloI2oyyq6KhRZsu1iCpIeME73yF2 0IAwTmLpsvbIVd0/WI3HIIPt8BJClLPq9zYpLMWYoQsjMplHCjXB/VQppWoNbORItdvq 0KgjVisWUmlygYfmbUbwj4matbWfzr6Emn0EU= Original-Received: by 10.50.194.199 with SMTP id hy7mr7568377igc.26.1326823222607; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:00:22 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.42.197.7 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:00:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.161.169 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:83521 Archived-At: Maybe something below is useful: - Make sure your terminal or GUI transfer the key to the place you run emacs. To confirm this, you can use "showkey" in console-tools for terminal, or "xev" in X. - If it is transferred, make sure you can see the same "scan code" in emacs, with "Ctrl-h l", which will show you latest keyboard strokes. - If you can see the strokes in emacs, make sure it is combined with the emacs keymap. "Ctrl-h b" will show you all the mapping. "M-right" or "M->", I am not sure which one you like, should be combined with the key. - In the end, make sure is combined with some emacs interactive function. Hope I didn't miss anything here, and hope the hints are helpful to you. Best Regards, Xiaofeng On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:43 AM, Peter Dyballa wrote= : > > Am 17.1.2012 um 13:36 schrieb Daniel Sousa: > >> When I run C-h k and press that key combination, emacs simply ignores it >> and doesn't even say that it is undefined. > > Correct! In every software terminal emulation GNU Emacs is the guest of t= his software product. When its host is not able to receive or distinguish t= he signals about the keys being pressed (or released), then the host cannot= send anything to its guest. (You might try to teach your terminal emulatio= n a bit more key events.) So GNU Emacs does not receive anything. To check = what it might receive you can press, for example in *scratch* buffer, C-q a= nd then some desired key combination. By this means you record anything the= host programme sends to its guest GNU Emacs. You can also type C-h l, whic= h shows a recording of what you typed. Or actually of what GNU Emacs receiv= ed from your keyboard work... > > -- > Greetings > > =A0Pete > > Without vi there is only GNU Emacs > >