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From: Klaus-Dieter Bauer <bauer.klaus.dieter@gmail.com>
To: emacs help <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Scrolling in buffers with inline images / point outside viewport
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 18:56:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANtbJLGfRVWrr5NTBsDgVvQ_4C3zrfdtQa-Dk-XM-akv2SdJWA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

Hello!

TL;DR: Is it possible to have point outside the visible portion of the
buffer?

Scrolling in buffers with inline images can be awfully jerky: Images
invalidate the linear relation between lines and height on the screen to
the point where scrolling the mouse down once may skip several screens. As
my org-mode files often contain a series of output plots, this makes them
very hard to navigate with the mouse wheel and inconvenient to navigate
with the keyboard.

It can partly be solved, as demonstrated in [1], by doing smart positioning
of point. However, I can't think of a solution how to scroll when there are
images that are larger than the buffer height if after every scroll
operation point must be visible. The solution from [1] for instances gets
stuck at large images, unless one scrolls continously in which case
presumable Emacs do a redisplay during the scrolling, that would force the
viewport into a position that makes point visible.

Is there some way to get emacs allow an "out-of-viewport" point as usual in
modern GUI programs? This would allow to implement smoother scrolling with
images and allow the modern behaviour, where I can put the cursor to a
position, scroll down a couple of pages with the mouse wheel and
shift-click to select the region in between.

kind regards, Klaus

PS: Reducing the size of images with `org-image-actual-width' would be a
work-around but won't work in Windows, where the binaries come without
ImageMagick support (by which I mean being linked to use the IM library,
not calling imagemagick binaries -- that misunderstanding came up before).

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[1] http://www.randomsample.de/dru5/node/25


             reply	other threads:[~2013-06-09 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-09 16:56 Klaus-Dieter Bauer [this message]
2013-06-09 17:19 ` Scrolling in buffers with inline images / point outside viewport Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-09 19:12   ` David Engster
2013-06-09 19:00 ` David Engster
2013-06-09 21:57   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-10 15:53     ` David Engster
2013-06-10 17:01       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-11 19:40         ` David Engster

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