From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Skip Montanaro Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Proposal: "C-z " reserved for users Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 11:43:14 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1973673328.2493716.1612740554692.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1973673328.2493716.1612740554692@mail.yahoo.com> <83tuqnkzff.fsf@gnu.org> <87czxap89f.fsf@zoho.eu> <87eehp4wae.fsf@mbork.pl> <8ed9b43502f51689d8b1@heytings.org> <87czx9kwrc.fsf@zoho.eu> <87v9b1jgd2.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5440"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Emanuel Berg , Help GNU Emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 18:43:35 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9X31-0001JK-2v for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 18:43:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59088 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9X30-0000Ae-2E for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 12:43:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58806) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9X22-00009Z-7Z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 12:42:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yb1-xb2b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2b]:45753) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9X20-00022r-M6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 12:42:34 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-yb1-xb2b.google.com with SMTP id l8so6633894ybe.12 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 09:42:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=+X6Yzhc9RBd1ykA1/6GnimihXKwIB0Cz0GzQj+iay60=; b=ksoDkzyaFgzRL4XZ6wnuC72+Knq6uzblW1J94mEERoo5kxm1LPuqOh3YLVwGHurTsk qCiJTGPaEkcyP34ryAsdURmDMsGky9e6j3hAzuYx4L7ObWMSDijsbKTii6Xa8KMOM92q Opwu1j+171qZrBZczFlnMFLKWQ1QdhlNB1xONhPEdRtm2uBdRntdV0ZpanbyF4Qwyi/X HVQE0dyw342uJiXgtyfgsiYD3Ruy8FTjehMaNfmGH5t+HV9kC6FCwKxy3WuIf0ZiPiLL 5fnV3VZr1rS0u3LaZFSCbs4YZzu4NjYZUnj19ZhoVU+qJUkXkoO6hNxnpB0Ts7iA/ow2 ylBQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=+X6Yzhc9RBd1ykA1/6GnimihXKwIB0Cz0GzQj+iay60=; b=jWnHkQuPqtOGyK0itYE25gcnLGmupIGcB4gMseW6ir1OY/HIVMd2iLhqYZ5FHWaWxT T6cfAR5UjAxQif8lz7WM1I5K3UI9SfRt0VrBW6gdhC7bXtMYBI4oINtuymmNNuNUqgqJ 9tfwncSy6K+LnW1ib15kv333Im5OhKffgNfMWDFRlkJAnAeajb/BNVCCj79B/t3OHTQX x4ltG6rYY24abE+/CjfNnEwsXX/o7jHGVoMHhgPhnc5LKVxs4n1gRlYFkwNzO8YbwKW+ /p3QP2VdMhyGPxDYiz3etEBMSmFebFrh/rABYxxCTp+CByPzna8DqerFzjN633L6vU8G AvWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532uUjBUCGNJMn3rJMxiJkMBPVZylzJIX9iETE/S2w+VBZY/znYC 5lbPGjVOQOXmHWEWAz2Fa0glBiG6Pw9t2pJkanF37D4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzbFRSIPXiSb8xwDeYyQXPcF9Ne0kqzcPPjx3DBbHgFwIQdBqg4ypONZKKPVwSH2P9UzBF6tTncyD4HmodnHJo= X-Received: by 2002:a25:a89:: with SMTP id 131mr32805469ybk.429.1612892551387; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 09:42:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87v9b1jgd2.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2b; envelope-from=skip.montanaro@gmail.com; helo=mail-yb1-xb2b.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:127716 Archived-At: > > I just did `suspend-frame' but nothing happened. It only works > on emacs-nw? > > I have > > GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ > Version 3.24.5, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2020-10-23 I'm not yet up to v28, but M-x suspend-frame RET does as it would expect for me. OTOH, In a GUI instance M-x suspend-emacs RET complains that Emacs can't be suspended while there is a visible frame. It does work for me in an instance started with -nw. In fact, help on suspend-frame shows that it's a bit higher level, calling the correct lower level function depending on environment. S