From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Skip Montanaro Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Requiring elisp that comes with Emacs Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 08:50:39 -0600 Message-ID: References: <874m0gv6ba.fsf@gmail.com> <87k29bl4v0.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1485874271 14213 195.159.176.226 (31 Jan 2017 14:51:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 14:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Narendra Joshi Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 31 15:51:08 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cYZm0-0003XK-4A for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 15:51:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38733 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cYZm5-0004jM-Hw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:51:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51401) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cYZla-0004j6-GP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:50:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cYZlZ-0003Cs-JW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:50:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]:35237) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cYZlZ-0003Ca-CF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:50:41 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-x229.google.com with SMTP id b65so82474239wmf.0 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 06:50:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=4VjpACVGSJsnWDfU7q/yXA5+7s+UKxOsRfojlC5sxqA=; b=ZP6J9tuUUre7clYE6e3AcFq/wHcR/8TpxyJsvbJWoQ69ErNam3iOyQNMPzlUmZ+BBG frj8xtgVRn63pvIVELHiy7etK1uyznGMV+SJ1K/dcCAjk3raJ+rW+ocx/e8kqoTAfPYk BeH0xGXMM9PMrrLbP01QoGwi77MDxt9dEbjeQZmPqgCi+ZJK5C4Tyrzg2WH90Rm5G12U nq75hw3uN9h4gIZtSwkm6pmAKQ5PVti5nlSITj0FOSGw/lpAbLYCLP6QqQ+3/yQEay7m QvHcVNJnySCntGO2AyMF1FZk/HgrIiTJ1sL20Y1pOjW4y3Io1X8fxfkHlNiLXcG4rFUJ Q0yg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=4VjpACVGSJsnWDfU7q/yXA5+7s+UKxOsRfojlC5sxqA=; b=aii4wAczkuwmhC0JCUVFvuvGnhX3yhlX9slr3MSqCY5gC701n++rR+ZPLv6wlblKT7 6d79h23+miyy0k+01LAqIwF62iNGQ+IiOBAtOfMFRSXTI6MkH/x+7oRjKW7PGGYtQJIo PWn482PlniAR8v91ZKRORdhIklUKYheftz4a7aAkiyPOkpxrYmHzW3yTZyp+Ro/ENsKw 9Ip7W2gbg75V8aC0CtZXGDBvoUetiMvaCIV8P1S2BRL78EYRJBdbfvD5F6ueOC1mXPhb T6VcwkbgrvVZMrhAkuKXqeVwmK1ojDGzUBXayFuJJ0+DCZC0iiKICcf7tRUSuSoYxWOJ BZLg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIS4qCOeBxNgkLzQFECUoucLAAYXSn+rcqRbv4sur+DZnYdk3D/3birotCCqkCrmI61LsX3yUYWn5IoNA== X-Received: by 10.28.157.16 with SMTP id g16mr1641569wme.16.1485874240078; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 06:50:40 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.28.224.86 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 06:50:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87k29bl4v0.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::229 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:112211 Archived-At: On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Narendra Joshi wrote: > My question was more about whether we need to `require` packages that > come with Emacs itself, e.g. org-mode. > It it's not pre-loaded and you want use it at run-time, I believe the answer is, "yes." (It's been years and years since I did anything non-trivial with ELisp, so I feel I have to qualify my statement.) Maybe I misunderstood what you meant by "come with Emacs itself." I (require) a fewpackages in my .emacs file: mouse, auto-complete-config, and lua-mode. I didn't install any of them (someone else manages my local Emacs installation), so they may not all be distributed with Emacs. I'm 99% certain that at least mouse is distributed as part of Emacs. Still, I need to (require) it to load it into the current Emacs instance so I can mess around with the symbols and functions defined in mouse.el. Skip