From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Skip Montanaro Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Proposal: "C-z " reserved for users Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 18:52:31 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1973673328.2493716.1612740554692.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1973673328.2493716.1612740554692@mail.yahoo.com> <83tuqnkzff.fsf@gnu.org> <87czxap89f.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10258"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Emanuel Berg , Help GNU Emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 01:53:20 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9HHL-0002b6-P0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 01:53:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54772 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9HHK-00023R-Hs for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 19:53:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37586) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9HGm-00021L-0P for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 19:52:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yb1-xb2f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2f]:42213) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9HGk-0002fg-Dj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 19:52:43 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-yb1-xb2f.google.com with SMTP id b187so16476001ybg.9 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 16:52:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=LPmJ6LZyBK5VYrBzlO8nZciGkcKX6oPvmlLf+5zCsBs=; b=D3D4a/ra0Q61lnFoMUQzTUr400+R/bXHQJ4JjxS556ol/8GkKiNCG5MITxE4zWIR1W 2iiEXRcC3WoNEkcRCpen50U/eLgJoC04fL6OGea59ySXhvQm64MklH/yCWSYob+4TagW xS9BGnpukREPh6YwDqUAa1gLyj4NyQwYk4dJ/3x7WYfRO+00t14XyEQZXabdbs7RgAv/ pv9YodxlOf6W795XtaaseMobG3w3szoRwOw9XOs9Qe7SJ+tRT9R66iBSwCfPTSWZNnaR 6Btq0rsV7BJ+psTVdza6AJFjvXtCe4qzEgJbkvcfMl1G2sTbNZrB1hUvytHHj9Op8BWS 5YEQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=LPmJ6LZyBK5VYrBzlO8nZciGkcKX6oPvmlLf+5zCsBs=; b=s5fCfXReL/KgQtYW0BUMQKSwyjK94MYJY/iSR/Vhd1S6H94NV+rOos4twleAPUM13I lHTfG3gX8hXH21h+lsrdboCxTomtpYEG87IKC9iXyLGmMT2wX3h+6fz74Q0ChYN3HfX5 uEYevM8Iv5cfLUomv+iJquT0LTlnllAfad/532CT4Vwvzr9gMCgzSgyAkI8wMPvVo1fP mpGrNs5dajKnPSAxHrYpVHhEgvIdPXd62M7bE7gK5/0KhRmSkJ9mAtNBL5Fag01zng0F JBDCkx1va+c2WgeT7AgyxDZGPJwlyE4C9eim/NK96PCJ1OSiUoznzAXnrxpyEI4qp6GB zUKw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5331bb2dlzVxoLid/Y763qrcyhvXlBGVfB1AtYEmO4YEHh4zb28F sjcJohxqImm+W3mhyMkzfF8izF621qR0K6WcWbNT2D4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx11XOxO+6f7bzX8b48DQHTHi7bvJR6vU48g283+a+Bb/+e6sVkhyXUGABgEVpEl0uHE1fiWnDOop0DiZq2J6k= X-Received: by 2002:a25:a89:: with SMTP id 131mr28188540ybk.429.1612831960796; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 16:52:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87czxap89f.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2f; envelope-from=skip.montanaro@gmail.com; helo=mail-yb1-xb2f.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:127673 Archived-At: > > > It is certainly a dangerous function to have mapped to such > > an easy key to hit > > Agree 100%: > > (put 'suspend-frame 'disabled t) > (global-unset-key "\C-z") > (global-unset-key "\C-x\C-z") > In what way is it dangerous? At least on the various Unix and Linux systems I've used over the years, the worst that happens is that it hides/iconifies the frame. Just reopen it. It definitely should not be disabled in tty mode. Skip