From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jai Dayal Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: When do you prefer frames instead of windows? Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:06:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416852468 8085 80.91.229.3 (24 Nov 2014 18:07:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs To: Barry Margolin Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 24 19:07:41 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xsy33-0000KJ-DI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 19:07:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53891 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xsy2v-00016H-JI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:07:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50520) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xsy2e-00016B-7q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:07:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xsy2d-0007Fb-1v for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:07:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ig0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c05::229]:36327) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xsy2c-0007FW-N6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:07:14 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ig0-f169.google.com with SMTP id hl2so5439611igb.2 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:07:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=IBFZE4hRxOxCc2hXjvSjM141AWrGsjZtmg6aQqtUxu8=; b=LM0eMTf1rSEM5XV1y6W10Ub6gRR8TaEk6ZppUzySe7ZxGuSc5+5CyBoVVeMzDZKjAO f0tjwaXCKHGTp7xfsNJT689UgRMxp50ngzY9ssVJ/iMUrouTIdTP4tq9Jk0oMqMiNAZs r8b9AJq4i+4hy0h6jccadmvmtqCAyZ43HG1uFtQ5CpKpLZB8lwDaT+mPjzn1UY7Vn4rN BXncvzQ5rtgyMXBVaiTuZ3OCnsAT6sd+Mugwo3XliMaZpQHNNC9j1CbIQ0dyvMSlrn0o Jls0U/nNk3Ag6vtmyALtSo0r3UkO+Pr+LvccxZkiMAkDlwgQHCcYjs3RHtJRThDsbpmw +wmQ== X-Received: by 10.107.164.213 with SMTP id d82mr3396460ioj.75.1416852433784; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:07:13 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.50.227.7 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:06:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::229 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:101133 Archived-At: I just use them when I like having different window arrangements based on content. For example, I like my code buffers split one way, but for actually running the application's workflow, I like having a window with 4 different ansi-terms split in quarters. Being able to switch easily between the different frames makes it very easy. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Barry Margolin wrote: > In article , > Drew Adams wrote: > > > > The usefulness of frames is evident for buffers that update their > > > content according to the current buffer (like Speedbar and ECB). > > > Besides this kind of use, when do you prefer frames instead of > > > windows? > > > > Personally, almost always. A window-manager window (Emacs frame) > > is more flexible than an Emacs window - more features/possibilities. > > > > Emacs windows were conceived long, long ago - before window > > managers were supported/recognized by Emacs and even, for the > > most part, before they existed. They are vestigial organs that > > have some limited uses but are generally not the best way to > > interact, IMO. > > Yes, they came about on ASCII terminals, long before graphical > interfaces became common. > > Since I've been using Emacs since those days, I long got used to using a > single frame with Emacs windows in it. Now, even though I use it on a > Mac with a wide screen, I still can't get into the habit of using > multiple frames. > > -- > Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu > Arlington, MA > *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** >