From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jai Dayal Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:13:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: <513ad0e2-f7f4-484c-b17b-7c94a8c2fc7a@googlegroups.com> <8738chaieo.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87tx4x9353.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ppfl91ft.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87lhq98zoy.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ha0x8xbh.fsf@wanadoo.es> <0dd00724-ae02-4a11-9c9b-aa94a601c363@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409246080 18341 80.91.229.3 (28 Aug 2014 17:14:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 17:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs To: Rusi Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 28 19:14:34 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XN3HN-0006G2-Cp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 19:14:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38132 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XN3HM-0006ds-U8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:14:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39712) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XN3H8-0006dM-P7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:14:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XN3H7-000882-O6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:14:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vc0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22d]:54680) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XN3H7-00087s-Hw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:14:17 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id im17so1162835vcb.4 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:14:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=6tDlV3pnmcTrK9stOEdcaHBxhsU45yfx+ujHuYIKSAA=; b=pY4opCcmzrddfGjD1Nya3BCvvXM8NW50dnbCGqsFn+8JYjA0d9tCqwerYhM1OX0qOz GsGvjenjpfdDH+aG0JcVtE/j5MTO4nLGTrtt1RTh646jtZEXCvhifS7HD41iWNAQfAHv WR/KbC9zIQmhtG03JnQJCBrEK9S/6KAzQHCuoI7hjT0EbZyt473evQwZETW+MAtebe0F JWCDr2tZ4sk45VHLus1KbTOFK42QBlyz7gtU/bRvFK2e/6DfEGF3nIrM8g9OfSdzrRoq 91j4vRuMvssQoOvOnkfnBIRzj7SmnOF4D9bMMSKpcLArYaqtU07yxS9iKHbUg4eANxdB FvtQ== X-Received: by 10.220.74.195 with SMTP id v3mr4813642vcj.23.1409246054652; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.221.24.82 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:13:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0dd00724-ae02-4a11-9c9b-aa94a601c363@googlegroups.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22d X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99477 Archived-At: That argument doesn't make sense, at all. This technology doesn't just automatically kill people; it's controlled by people to kill people. It's like blaming a homicide induced by stabbing on knife technology. So, let me ask again: how many people have been killed in the name of science vs. killed in the name of religion? It's pretty clear: very few people have murdered someone else because "the science dictates this should happen", when many people have killed other people simply because of religious dogma. On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Rusi wrote: > On Thursday, August 28, 2014 5:57:44 PM UTC+5:30, Jai Dayal wrote: > > > In my experience the > > scientific types are more bigoted than the religious ones. > > > Okay, how many people have been killed in the name of science vs. killed > in > > the name of religion? > > The argument can cut both ways: > Consider that > a. The wars of the 20th century have been more terrible than all the > previous ones > b. The human propensity to wish to kill another is the same across millenia > > We can only conclude that it is science and technology that is the > multiplying factor for the escalation. > > Anyway this kind of blame game is becoming faintly ridiculous > [and too OT to continue so should preferably stop with this post!] > > I'd just reiterate what I said: "In my experience the scientific types > are more bigoted than the religious ones." > > To convert this into a universally quantified: "All scientific persons > are more bigoted than religious ones" would be quite > ridiculous. Anyone interested can find any number of counterexamples > both ways. > > Even a more nuanced statistical "It is more likely that..." is untenable > without massively more data than we have at our disposal. > > --------- > And since this has now become too unrelated to emacs, I would like to > drop out of this 'discussion' >