From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jai Dayal Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:34:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87d2bjs6us.fsf@gmail.com> <20140829201133.4ec2831f@aga-netbook> <20140829202748.186a6f10@aga-netbook> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409337323 18800 80.91.229.3 (29 Aug 2014 18:35:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 18:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs To: Marcin Borkowski Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 29 20:35:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XNR0y-00056u-0k for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:35:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43740 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XNR0x-0003f1-EL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:35:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54525) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XNR0l-0003cX-R1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:35:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XNR0g-0001wc-3W for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:34:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vc0-x233.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c03::233]:50503) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XNR0f-0001wU-SA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:34:54 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vc0-f179.google.com with SMTP id hy4so2947094vcb.10 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 11:34:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=oL2LoDsBB4rKaFG665UQFUy69Sot63ht6aiSk2Bz+yI=; b=yxyab2JAvk1DkPELuDXRmZ7dLuBBe68q39/rn9xkMtib8xxL9mShZGTEzFr1nBhHJM oVfW0Y67o/Z1swqOJ2TlhE4bi+ljVGORY1GDzp6hjKaJ72CvyJfdvlH1A1dzm5SFqUvf dyc01NI95q0KAgzUJkQaW8ogGqil9/+umAamzGoq9SRbVrfwdZstWqKJBaqzyBy/y1YS CJF+pYlYpS1zgxvgAZlN7OTOO066byaT0ruduLeZgczpRby8m1kIXteH1Vf8iE2BlNnv TQHukXRDkfQCbuv+yBVIrYN1D0u6A1jph/7hh8RJfx6rBw7+fR3zk5owgVcZltO8FiOS lh6w== X-Received: by 10.220.130.131 with SMTP id t3mr10292664vcs.30.1409337292992; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 11:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.221.24.82 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 11:34:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140829202748.186a6f10@aga-netbook> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::233 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99525 Archived-At: Not being a genius does not make you an idiot; however, one either meets the classification of a genius or one does not. Just because there are binary memberships for some objects wrt classes, it does not mean all classifications are binary. Being a bigot, however, is binary. >And putting irony aside: *if* you claim that if someone is even *a tiny bit* bigoted, then he can be called a bigot, could you please tell me who is *not* a bigot? That's not for me to decide. The statement that was made was that scientists are *more* bigoted than religious types. How can a scientist be more bigoted than something without being a bigot? It makes no sense. >Rusi also said "in my experience" I don't see how that's relevant. "In my opinion, you are stupid" isn't really that functionally different in layman speak to "you are stupid". >I have to admit that it is the first time I see this definition of "faith", and I wouldn't agree with it. This closes the discussion (I hope so at least, I have some work to do, you know). It really isn't though. There is a difference between beliefs and evidenced-based reasoning. Faith is *believing* something to be true 100% regardless of the evidence. On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > Dnia 2014-08-29, o godz. 14:15:48 > Jai Dayal napisa=C5=82(a): > > > How is it different? One can't be more of X without resulting in being > > partially X. One is either a bigot, or they aren't, so yes, he is > > saying scientists are bigoted. > > Ah! Now I get it. You seem to be reasoning in binary categories. > Either you are a bigot or not. Either something is science or not. > Let me extrapolate a bit: either someone is an idiot or a genius. > Which one are you? (SCNR...) > > And putting irony aside: *if* you claim that if someone is even *a > tiny bit* bigoted, then he can be called a bigot, could you please > tell me who is *not* a bigot? > > And here's a solution to your exercise: Rusi also said "in my > experience", which you conveniently omitted from your "quotation", and > also he used the words "scientific types", which is not exactly the > same as "scientists" - as you "quoted" him. > > And, you silently ignored my second question. How convenient. > > > Faith is believing that something is true, regardless of what the > > evidence clearly spells out. How is that not idiotic? > > I have to admit that it is the first time I see this definition of > "faith", and I wouldn't agree with it. This closes the discussion (I > hope so at least, I have some work to do, you know). > > Best, > > -- > Marcin Borkowski > http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski > Adam Mickiewicz University > >