From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jai Dayal Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:47:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <513ad0e2-f7f4-484c-b17b-7c94a8c2fc7a@googlegroups.com> <8738chaieo.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87tx4x9353.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ppfl91ft.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87lhq98zoy.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ha0x8xbh.fsf@wanadoo.es> <0dd00724-ae02-4a11-9c9b-aa94a601c363@googlegroups.com> <20140828214327.48d41c9c@aga-netbook> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409255266 7961 80.91.229.3 (28 Aug 2014 19:47:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 19:47:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs To: Marcin Borkowski Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 28 21:47:41 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XN5fX-000641-HW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 21:47:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38738 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XN5fX-00027C-6D for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:47:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41776) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XN5fK-00026w-GJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:47:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XN5fJ-0005ih-6R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:47:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vc0-x233.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c03::233]:49298) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XN5fJ-0005id-0F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:47:25 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vc0-f179.google.com with SMTP id hy4so1449999vcb.10 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:47:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=YQBqRVerj9L5pY5Bm+zE5XXShBxZNOVXhhVsvZENLGk=; b=yz41u5Z7adpmy06sNQQdsHgSDAHOQSL/CuABBdLKkdYwNlzBSQHqqle5d6fgZhkxNh WxviDvcEUsS49EUEghLBtL/MdHYdH4q4f+itzdJEAMtO/MnQp4Uy0lWcGAhL3PaVXsN3 WqgEbaa0ShQxn56ce9CBth0USzpPqtJ0tM0swvWNWtmMpe27lXb9Y8TEYTDbvmWraPNw RkkUkXHJROT3HgCLw9llHBiS3jS1m9GBpZMVaMfT3ch0546uik7hN6cTpuiWZBDpKrk2 nyNgSm6qRCzNXSX3ZQhdmSyVMMQotZnVP/R/qCH8MvDXYtaeIzz2G2L1Sp1yqVSHsv7J hQiA== X-Received: by 10.220.86.72 with SMTP id r8mr3716215vcl.36.1409255243898; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.221.24.82 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:47:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140828214327.48d41c9c@aga-netbook> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::233 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99483 Archived-At: 1) Hitler was a Christian. 2) What do you mean "false interpretations"? There's no canonical interpretation of these religions, hence large factions exist between almost all of them; killing under these "interpretations" is very much dogma. > So for me, it's rather a 0:0 draw. Of course, we *might* count in pseudo-religious causes, but then why don't we count in pseudo-science? Both ways of counting are similarly dishonest. There is no such thing as pseudo-religion; it's all just religion. Pseudo-science isn't even close to science. On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > Dnia 2014-08-28, o godz. 13:13:53 > Jai Dayal napisa=C5=82(a): > > > So, let me ask again: how many people have been killed in the name of > > science vs. killed in the name of religion? It's pretty clear: very > > few people have murdered someone else because "the science dictates > > this should happen", when many people have killed other people simply > > because of religious dogma. > > This is becoming totally off-topic, but to keep things precise: > > 1. I have yet to hear about a murder because "the science dictates this > should happen". Unless we count in pseudo-science, that is, like the > "science" of racial purity of the German authorities during WW2 and > similar things. Nobody's going to treat this seriously as "science", > though. > > 2. I have also yet to hear about a murder "because of religious > dogma". I've heard about murders because of false interpretations > and/or false religions, but not about a single one because of a > *dogma*. > > So for me, it's rather a 0:0 draw. Of course, we *might* count in > pseudo-religious causes, but then why don't we count in > pseudo-science? Both ways of counting are similarly dishonest. > > Best, > > -- > Marcin Borkowski > http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski > Adam Mickiewicz University > >