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From: Jai Dayal <dayalsoap@gmail.com>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:11:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMJ-YiQs5KW5=1BLxHSf_NYk6AFxMhHBH3n2VmWiodtcC62Mjg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lhq98zoy.fsf@wanadoo.es>

No, my interpretation is correct.

If someone writes a manual on how to fix a Ford V8 engine, the discussion
on the engine's fuel efficiency and safety is completely irrelevant.
Following your logic, one could then turn the discussion into the utility
of driving in general, since it may otherwise lead to more disappointed
people.

His manual is about how to setup CEDET and use it. It's not about how to
evaluate CEDET in terms of productivity.

>And no, it is not necessary to mention the bad ergonomics of Emacs'
keybindings whenever someone asks about how to configure Gnus for
reading e-mail.

Why not? You just said that failing to mention the shortcomings can lead to
more disappointed people around. Following this "logic" failure to mention
Emacs' shortcomings during any discussion on Emacs features will lead to
more disappointed people around.


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es> wrote:

> Jai Dayal <dayalsoap@gmail.com> writes:
>
> >>I'll assume
> > that the directions given on the guide will make me more productive
> > while working on X.
> >
> > Sure, however, if X is inherently broken, that's a completely unrelated
> > discussion. The author of the manual here isn't even involved in CEDET.
> >
> >>Giving a heads-up is appropiate here.
> >
> > Then giving a heads-up in regards to Emacs is completely valid, and all
> > discussion, in this thread, on Emacs' short-comings are completely valid
> as
> > well? That's horrible logic.
>
> Your interpretation of my words is terrible ;-) If someone gives advice
> about using X, when X has serious shortcommings for the intended
> purpose, discussing those shortcommings is quite relevant. If X is
> mostly appropiate save for some minor details, mentioning those is just
> a nice service for the user.
>
> And no, it is not necessary to mention the bad ergonomics of Emacs'
> keybindings whenever someone asks about how to configure Gnus for
> reading e-mail.
>
>
>
>


  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-27 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-27  7:05 A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs solidius4747
2014-08-27 12:48 ` Dmitriy Igrishin
2014-08-27 13:18   ` Tu Hoang Do
2014-08-27 14:15     ` Dmitriy Igrishin
     [not found]       ` <CAMd9FiKzwc1QKa3KtZPFpTGs86bupRptFqL_WwCSE3kPGARXfg@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-27 14:53         ` Fwd: " Tu Hoang Do
     [not found]           ` <CAAfz9KNL25WboPXG87Azd_6yVr8zrx6hNrCsmuWs6w_XTvdspQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <CAMd9FiJyjk78a-3yMatvca3qp+pr4O+GmDp03ZqFSkpAEoxhGw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-27 18:14               ` Tu Hoang Do
2014-08-27 18:15                 ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 18:37                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 18:42                     ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 18:42                       ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 18:52                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 19:05                           ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 19:28                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 19:32                               ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 20:06                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 20:11                                   ` Jai Dayal [this message]
2014-08-27 20:57                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 23:17                                       ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 23:47                                         ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found]                                       ` <mailman.7678.1409181490.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-28  3:30                                         ` Rusi
2014-08-28  3:33                                           ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-28  4:29                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found]                                           ` <mailman.7693.1409200204.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-28  5:39                                             ` Rusi
2014-08-28 12:27                                               ` Jai Dayal
     [not found]                                               ` <mailman.7714.1409228889.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-28 15:53                                                 ` solidius4747
2014-08-28 21:22                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-28 22:24                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-28 23:28                                                       ` Dmitry
2014-08-29  0:02                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found]                                                       ` <mailman.7793.1409270604.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-29  3:35                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-29  6:06                                                     ` David Engster
2014-08-29 13:09                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-29 13:16                                                         ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-29 13:45                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-29 13:52                                                         ` David Engster
2014-08-29 14:16                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found]                                                     ` <mailman.7808.1409292429.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-29 13:15                                                       ` Rusi
2014-08-28 17:08                                                 ` Rusi
2014-08-28 17:13                                                   ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-28 19:43                                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-08-28 19:47                                                       ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-28 20:15                                                         ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                                                   ` <mailman.7743.1409246061.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-28 17:26                                                     ` Rusi
2014-08-28 23:01                                                   ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-08-27 18:45                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 14:39     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]     ` <mailman.7608.1409150189.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-27 15:01       ` solidius4747
2014-08-27 18:31         ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found] <mailman.127014.1409321829.1146.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-29 14:33 ` Tory S. Anderson
2014-08-29 17:21   ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-29 18:11     ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-08-29 18:15       ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-29 18:27       ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-08-29 18:34         ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-29 19:17           ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]     ` <mailman.7863.1409335908.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-30  3:43       ` Rusi
2014-08-30  7:24         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-08-30 21:27         ` Jai Dayal
     [not found]         ` <mailman.7951.1409434065.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-31  1:53           ` Rusi

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