From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexander Shukaev Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Redefine the `special-mode-map' Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 16:09:33 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87a91sau6i.fsf@gmail.com> <54AFEE3D.1090604@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1420816522 31185 80.91.229.3 (9 Jan 2015 15:15:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 15:15:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alex Kost , help-gnu-emacs To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 09 16:15:16 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9bCC-0008Qq-Nw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 16:09:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51008 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9bCC-0003Gq-4l for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 10:09:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35889) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9bBy-0003Ev-7j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 10:09:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9bBu-0006pl-Fb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 10:09:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-lb0-x230.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c04::230]:58962) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9bBu-0006pW-7h for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 10:09:34 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-lb0-f176.google.com with SMTP id p9so8563629lbv.7 for ; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 07:09:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=9XgqZ07dcd6Jvw1k9kYF9j3k6bveH0oRM3oVScO2n7M=; b=kReqTk4TRRJWD1NDS1gCRnRrTgxfMmfQn3vbKDNcK0Lqffs+NOGt3G1QvDkkRc/6lO SVYaRaoR78VrkLSTp8x4J1D+yc8Crk9sdKVIul/VwINw0NYfScD/S8oCHi4eQCaR+Pa7 eaxvOYDqNHRkUFbZbcN3CanqO73U2nxwIcwfBcm4deRGij6UrGfxlgUUSXg/kPKwDSrW IpSm1VUxiAxg+AVI3j11pc2ZJcKKdf3hj/fTN831XruiwZFh8IcFJbkVPaJKtrxXU1yz wONnycv5qMiHOBwD7/aYb9SD5dAXD07pGj7fpwqhSetpYonYkRU1kpXvePJoWZu1Bkp3 bo5A== X-Received: by 10.152.36.1 with SMTP id m1mr21908611laj.95.1420816173505; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 07:09:33 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.112.123.235 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 07:09:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54AFEE3D.1090604@yandex.ru> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c04::230 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:101968 Archived-At: > > That's no use. `set-keymap-parent' takes values as arguments, not keymap > names. So it some keymap already set `special-mode-map' as its parent, th= e > original value has been captured. > =E2=80=8B Hey Dmitry, And how about the fact that `setq' =E2=80=8Bis called before `simple.el' is= loaded what should effectively prevent `defvar' from setting the default value at all?=E2=80=8B